The Grit Factor Podcast w/ Karl Jacobi

GRIT FACTOR PODCAST - Episode 10 (March 9)
Guest: Dr. David Powers
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Dave: Is a screwdriver, little tiny screwdriver that's framed right there. And, somebody tried to stab me with that. So I've got it framed in my office. Yeah, so. But how did a guy who helped build the Department of Homeland Security end up as a homesteader writing fiction? See the inside of it, and you realize I shouldn't trust these guys.

Dave: I mean, you know, we all were there with our buddies, and we trust their buddies. We trusted the team. But once you got to the higher levels of the bureaucracy, you realize, oh, I need to make babies and grow my own food. You know, they use that one ammunition to knock me down. It's like man in shock. The only reason I don't mind coming out on the podcast like this, about some of my past.

Dave: Everything. Because I kind of figure, you know, if I do run for president someday, I just want all the stuff out in the open. Most people say breathe. Journal. But you say move the couch and move. You got a workout plan before you get a trainer, before you get a gym membership. You have the next business idea.

Dave: Just start moving and just take the first. Do I have dreams? I have dreams, but it's when it becomes a goal that it's actually moving beyond meditation to to action.

Karl: Average is the enemy of greatness. Comfort is the enemy of growth. Welcome to the Grit Factor podcast,

Karl: where we strip away the highlight reel and get into the darkness beneath it. The real stories, the real battles and the battle plans used to conquer them.

Karl: I'm your host, Carl Jacoby. Combat that. Entrepreneur, resilience and performance coach, keynote speaker. Husband and father. I built, scaled, and exited multiple companies totaling over 40 million in revenue.

Karl: But here's what that highlight reel doesn't show you. Life has been smacking me in the face with a two by four since I was just five years old.

Karl: Broken home. Constant chaos. No playbook, no safety net. Just grit. And if you're anything like me, you know you've got another level in you, in your business, your career, your faith, your leadership. You're just not sure how to get there. That's exactly why we're here. Be sure to follow me for more great content and check out my website.

Karl: Success with coral.com. Now that's car with a K. Now let's get to work.

Karl: Today I am joined by Doctor David Powers, who goes by Dave. He's an adventure philosopher and a pioneer that lives a life of constant experimentation. I've been following your journey, my dude on social, and I could definitely see you living that out daily. Doctor powers or Dave? Sorry. Thank you for joining me today. I'm thrilled. I cannot wait to dive in.

Karl: Man, I'm excited to be here. Me too. Man. Me too. And as I'm looking at you guys, you're you're probably listening. Those of your not on video. You're listening audio. Just imagine this. You know Viking right. This red hair Viking with tools in the background. Right. Tools of war. Right. So just have this in your imagination while he's got an actual tool in his hands.

Karl: Right. But, you know, he's got such a diverse background. That being said, David, you've got an impressive bio mum. And, you know, if it reads like various lies which you know, you've lived fully so far, you're a decorated marine, you're a founding member of Homeland Security, a bestselling author, a psychologist, a proud family man, a four feral boys.

Karl: I want to make sure I said that correctly. And one princess, you call yourself a shining organizer, a spray, as I said that correctly. And I love that, right? But how did a guy who helped build the Department of Homeland Security end up as a homesteader writing fiction? Like, give us the context here. A lot of guys that have worked for the government, I mean, and I'm sure you understand as well, see the inside of it.

Karl: And you realize I shouldn't trust these guys. I mean, you know, we all were there with our buddies and we trust their buddies. We trusted the team. But once you got to the higher levels of the bureaucracy, you realized, oh, I need to make babies and grow my own food.

Karl: Love it man. Make babies and grow food. Yeah, I love that, you know. So tell us. Tell us more about the journey you're on right now at, you know, in this current stage of life, in this current season, this give the listeners, you know, a quick glimpse in your life, like, what does that look like right now?

Karl: These days I'm settling into routine and, trying to create routines that I love. But, I've got this little farm and, like, right behind the computer where where I'm talking isn't. It's my basement. It walks out and I can see the woods and birds and occasionally the donkey that roams around the neighborhood, a walk by. And I am loving this stage of life.

Karl: I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll still join in some shenanigans and adventures, but I like to sitting on the porch and reading or watching the weather and just, you know, yelling at people to get off my lawn. Except I live on a dirt road, so nobody's on my lawn. But sometimes I'll yell at just for the heck of it.

Karl: That's awesome. I mean, as you're saying, you know, get off my lawn reminds me of a scene from We Were Soldiers. I, you know, Samuel, I played the sergeant major. Right. This command sergeant major, you know, get off my grass. You know, of course, I'm not going to replicate that amazing voice that he's got. But, you know, as you're saying, I'm picturing that so.

Karl: Well, good morning, Sergeant Major. What's good about it? Yes, yes, although that was a PG version of that. So, you know. But. Yes. Yeah. Oh, it's such an amazing movie now one going to watch that again. Hey. And you're like an aspect of this dream that I don't even think to mention to those. I can walk out any door in my house and just pee in the yard.

Karl: I mean, that's that's like the American dream. Yeah. I can't exactly do that right now, you know, not legally. I mean, could somebody ring with get pictures of you? Yeah, exactly. I might have HOA or some, you know, rather unpleasant neighbors. Or maybe they might be. I don't know, their mind. It'd be on girl only fan site. I may end up.

Karl: I pay me to put my pants back up. To be honest with you. Yeah, but thanks for sharing that, man. I, I love how you, you know, you shared this journey that you, you know, the highly where you are today, right? You get to enjoy this life that you've designed with intentions right where you are today. One of the things that you that said, and I haven't really touched on either, is behind the scenes you're building.

Karl: You're building a path of passive income, right? You're you're building. If I looking at your bio correctly, is your goal is to build $100,000, you know, passive income annually. Talk to us about that. Like what does that look like for you in terms of passive income. What is passive income. Because, you know, there's there's there's a lot of misunderstandings run out.

Karl: But just walk us through that for oh yeah. And as far as the definition that way before I start talking, people understand like passive income, nothing is truly passive simple. You have to invest the money or the time or both. It's kind of think of anything passive adjacent where I can do the work once. And so you might, might be recurring income, but I do the work once and then it just comes in.

Karl: And so for me, in my journey to the 100 K a year, I'm not anywhere near that yet, but I'm getting there. I mean, I'm making strides and sometimes it's, you know, $100 a day passive income, sometimes a few thousand, depending on what Bitcoin is doing. But, I've got passive income in, like for actual real estate investing in online real estate stuff where I just buy a portion of like, say, an apartment building out of money in crypto and I've got some friends that.

Karl: Well, I don't know, I hate to say it like this, but like, crack the code on crypto because they invest. It's called you for me. And so I invest in that. And yield farming makes money on the trades in crypto. So whether crypto is going up or down, there's those fees that come about. And so I've invested in these guys that are making money off of fees.

Karl: And so when crypto goes down and everybody gets scared, that shouldn't have been in in the first place. And they sold a bitcoin and they're making money off the fees. And when crypto goes up and everybody's wanting to buy when it's going up, when they shouldn't they're making money on the fees. And so yeah that's some of it.

Karl: And then I've got all my books I mean I've, I've got a little publishing company where I publish a lot of my own stuff and other people's stuff. And, you know, that's the, the typical passive income. People think about money coming in while I'm sleeping kind of money. Thanks for sharing. It gives us some insight. And in your perspective of passive income, because there is, you know, a big misunderstanding about passive income.

Karl: There is no true passive income where you don't, you know, invest some sort of time or resource into growing it, nurturing it to some degree. Right. But, you know, unfortunately, there's a lot of ads out there, and a lot of people out there that, you know, that's been somehow I've been led to believe that that's not the case.

Karl: Oh, yeah. But man, let's dig in, man. Because, you know, we've presented this amazing life that you get to live. And, you know, again, as I mentioned, that wasn't always the case, right? You know, you described your life as, you know, taking massive action. And this highlight we're sitting in right now is an absolute result of this massive action.

Karl: Right. In fact, you even said you have hoarded the lazy person. Just move right? Yeah. I can't agree with you more. That is something that frustrates me to know into people to constantly talk about doing something they don't execute. But let's let's go down into the basement for a moment. Yeah. You know, because you mentioned your intake and you mentioned you take that you're abused as a child, you know, and I think a lot of people and unfortunately, quietly can resonate, you know, with that, myself included, although I'm not as quiet anymore, but that but you use this as fuel, right.

Karl: And I definitely want to walk through this because it could be an amazing tool to, to harness if done correctly. Right. Well, let's dive into this. You said it lit a fire in you to fight like hell. So take us to a specific moment. You realize your success isn't wasn't just ambition, but it was a reaction to that trauma.

Karl: And if you want to walk us through that a little bit more of, you know. Oh, yeah. Was as about seven my parents moved to Myrtle Beach and, I mean, you're familiar with areas like that. It's like the redneck Riviera, kind of a beach town. And, we moved to a trailer park and, no, nothing.

Karl: No. Full time. My parents renting it, and they didn't know, and I wouldn't talk. Don't. We don't want to cast shade on my parents, but, trailer park kids. It's not like you ever seen the movie Gangs of New York with, DiCaprio and all those guys in it? Yes. Yes. Trailer parks like that growing up, I mean, there were gangs and, all the black kids hung out together.

Karl: All the white kids hung out together, and you had all the rejects, and, times I would be friends with all of them, but they were all. They behave like gangs. And if you were the little kid, you'd get beat up all the time. And, I wanted so desperately to have friends that I would put up with it.

Karl: And, at the time, I think, like, wow, okay, I finally made it. I'm finally friends with these kids. Would invite me over to play video games or something. I mean, the old Nintendo days, and I'd walk over and just get slugged as soon as I walk in the door. And as A89 year old, I'm I'm excited. My friends invited me over to their house finally so I can play games.

Karl: I'm like one of the cool kids walk in the door and get punched in the face, and then beat up and held there until I quit crying, quit sobbing, quit bleeding, and, just playing video games. While they won't let me leave and then, so, I mean, looking back, it's like you stupid little kid. But with this, I mean, I would I would sit there waiting to stop crying so that they would let me play video games.

Karl: Well, then I would go home that evening and not tell my parents, or if I did have bruises or a bloody nose or something. You know, I fell ride my skateboard, which happened a lot anyway, and, went on for 5 or 6 years and, I mean, it almost daily thing because get home from school, go out and, I would get into tons and tons of fights.

Karl: I was just a little scrawny, redheaded kid, easy to make fun of. I mean, the same guy I am now. So if all the hair was on top and it was bright red, rosy cheeked, easy to make fun of. By the way, I just want to say that I would never do that. Oh, can we ever have these?

Karl: These kids go to the other side of the street when I walk by because they're scared of, you know, Viking, Santa Claus. But those days, man, I was the, just the little redheaded kid that got made fun of and beat up all the time. And, then at some point in about middle school age, there were some of the high school kids that started paying attention.

Karl: And, they would, invite us over and make us strip down and dance and things like that. And for some things that some of them got into that they would go back in the bedrooms. And thankfully, I never was forced to do that. But still ended up having to see a lot with it. I mean, a lot of things that, kids shouldn't encounter until they're old enough to fight back, enough to know better.

Karl: And still. I mean, even as a middle schooler, I just I wanted friends, I wanted friends so bad that was willing to put up with all that crap, because I didn't know it was supposed to be any better. Man, thanks for sharing it, dude. I, I can not to a large degree of that, but, you know, I come from a background where I was abused emotionally, you know, not physically, thankfully, but, you know, I every other sense of the word by my mother and, you know, my dad and I didn't have a good relationship.

Karl: And to your point, too, I don't blame this on them. Right. I love my parents to death and I look at their programing, you know, what they received, you know, and they, they, they only did what they do. Right. And that being said, we are programed this with this behavior, these beliefs, these these different scenarios. Early on. Right.

Karl: In most of my programs, I talk about, you know, going back to this eight year old or seven year old or six year old before your hopes, dreams and aspirations get tainted, right? You know, because we all had hopes and dreams like, you know, mom, I want to be a president. Maybe not so much these days, like, you know, but you had hopes.

Karl: You had dreams. You had aspirations before, you know, somebody else tainted them, right? Either because of what they said to you, because what they physically did to you, or maybe because a trauma throughout your life, either in your young, younger days, mid days, whatever your your your prior military, you served in the government. So you knew exactly what kind of trauma I'm talking about.

Karl: So talk to us. How did that affect your programing. Right. This this, you know, this traumatic phase that you went in your life, you know, where you're constantly getting beat and you're seeing the things you're seeing and you're you're saying, man, I wish I told that kid to done something differently. Of course, hindsight is always 2020, right? But how did that affect you, you know, later on how that affect you as a young man?

Karl: How did that affect you as a father, as a husband? You know, talk to us about that man. Middle school. Something clicked. At some point, I got into a fight. Well, actually, I was urged to get into a fight like they would try to win, almost. They would try to make us fight people just to watch. And I was doing good.

Karl: I mean, and we're talking early 90s, the heyday of WWE wrestling and all that. I had this kid in the suplex and I was ready to drop him, and he almost bit my finger off and, yeah, he just latched on. And that was like the one time my mom, like, thought, what's going on? Because, you know, I go home and my finger, she had to take him to the hospital and everything and, didn't tell her the whole truth.

Karl: But I'll tell you what I learned from this. Other than don't don't let somebody get your finger in their mouth. Because that's always bad. That, these kids respect me a little more. If I'm fighting, then I'm winning. And so that taught me. I just. I'm gonna learn how to kick everybody's ass so they don't kick me out anymore.

Karl: And that's. That's from that point on the plan. Bad things happen. Like, I started to learn how to fight, and I would start fights every chance I got at school. I mean, I got suspended so many times. The thing is. So actually, a certified genius on the IQ scale, and, like. So I look away, I look, I fall down, I'm very, very blue collar and people don't suspect it.

Karl: But. So I was this kid in middle school that my teachers loved me because straight A's, I loved like, the S.a.t.s all the time. And they loved me. And so when I would get suspended, they would still send the work home because they didn't want me to get behind. So it's like I got em. Weird. Best and worst.

Karl: Yeah, I would start fights every chance I got. And so I went through all these years where, yeah, I could fight good and people didn't abuse me any more, but I was always angry, always bad at everything and always looking for everything to be a fight. And I still have trouble with that. Those that lasted for so long during those developmental years that, I for a, I don't know, for a great many years of my adulthood kind of turned into a pussy because I didn't want to get angry and fight, and I would avoid conflict at all costs for for a long time.

Karl: And I still have trouble with that because I was always afraid I was going to fall back to the the angry kick everybody's but Dave. And, you know, I say I still have trouble with that. And that's affected, my, my job as a father, sometimes getting angry too fast. I can relate to that. Yeah. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people can.

Karl: Right. You know, especially if they've had to live that kind of life. In fact, even just recently, I found myself had to get to higher state of agitation, higher state of anger. It's like, man, where the hell is this coming from? Yeah, I know it's coming from. Right. It's kind of a dumb question, but it's like, man, this is not this is not the version of me that I want to merge.

Karl: It's not the version of me that I want my kids to see or, and or to think that it's okay. Right. You recognize it immediately after the fact. Like, I didn't recognize this build up. And then he yelled at my kid. Now I feel like crap, you know? And then, like this last Sunday, my eight year old got another warning in Sunday school.

Karl: Not Sunday school, but like the kid church had to choke out a kid because the kid accidentally hit him with a ball. His first instinct was to jump on him and start choking it. And, you know, it's it's not that I taught him to choke kids out when, you know, from an accident. And we try to teach our kids, like, here's self-defense and here's out of control.

Karl: And, I get angry too quick, and they see it and learn it without me teaching it. Yeah, well, I mean, that goes to show that, you know, we live by example, right? Whether it's a good example or an example, we we live by example and I'm concerned my by a quote by one of my mentors coaches, Benjamin, you lead you can only lead to a level of discipline on which you live right.

Karl: Yeah. And so every you lead, regardless of where you actually think about it or not. Right. So is that so you talked about how this anger still affecting you to this day in most situations. How do you deal with it? I mean, how do you deal with that other version of Dave emerging? Right. You you sense your blood pressure going up.

Karl: You sense it. How do you deal with it? Man? Oh man. And with me, it's very visible because I start turning red from here and it just goes up and I'm visibly bright red, like sunburned red. Just I cannot stop it or hide it either. I could see that happen, and they just step back. I try to channel it into energy.

Karl: And so because at its core, it's always felt like energy. As a kid, I channeled it in fighting. Like I'm feeling stressed. I'm getting beat up here. I'm gonna go beat up somebody else. These days, I try to channel it in the work energy or workout energy. You know, sometimes I'll go out to the I've got an old barn here on the property that we've got squat racks and stuff out there and punching bags, and I'll go out there by myself.

Karl: So, so I can play the music I want to play and turn on the gangster rap or heavy metal and just throw the iron around or beat on the punching bag. I'm here in the office and I turn that into something. Yeah. And I'll tell you something that's been very therapeutic for me lately. You mentioned about the dreams and things that were tainted.

Karl: Fifth grade. I've still got it. This little sci fi short story I wrote. I've always wanted to be a writer. And to me, I mean, I've written probably 20 nonfiction books. But it's weird. But I don't consider that being a writer. To me, writers write novels like Stephen King and Tolkien and all those guys. And I had this short story I wrote in fifth grade before everything that tainted.

Karl: And just this year, I'm watching my first novel, my first full length novel. That's big evidence of how far I've come, because. Yeah. And it's therapeutic because I'm writing it very close to reality. There's a lot of things in there that I haven't opened up about that my character is opening up about that kind of thing. It's amazing how therapeutic that is.

Karl: And, some people that know are going to say, well, that's, that's Dave in that scene, but, you know, it's in this novel. Yeah, that's something I'm moving into now to try to untangle those dreams, I guess, redeem them. You know, from a Christian point of view. That's awesome man. Thanks for sharing it. Dude. I love this novel idea, man.

Karl: Later on, I definitely want, you know, for folks that are there, like, on the edge of their seat right now, listening and and hearing from you. I mean, I definitely want to give you an opportunity for you to, you know, share where they can find out more about this novel because now I'm, like, intrigued. I want to read about this amazing Viking that I, you know, I'm sitting before, you know, having this amazing conversation with what you said earlier, you know, talking about, you know, going out to the Bard, right?

Karl: And, you know, hitting the iron and, and or, you know, working with the iron to hit the bags and so forth reminds me of the phrase exhausting the body. So you contain the mind. Yeah, right. And I, I could definitely relate to that because I find myself when I don't do some type of physical exertion or activity, whether it's going to gym or it's, you know, rolling on the mat or whatever, you don't exhaust your mind, your body, you know, having that outlet of frustration, that pent up frustration.

Karl: We'll just call it frustration, anger, frustration, whatever you want to call it. Right? That it is easier to get into that agitated state. It is easier to get into that mode where, you know, you just want to destroy something, right? Yeah, it is not. The person is sitting, you know, before you, because oftentimes it's the person before you that you know you love and you, you, you, you don't want that to come out of you.

Karl: Right. But here's a bit of therapy to that. Maybe I can suggest to anybody that's listening if, if you have any bit of land or somebody that has some land or something, get yourself a good ax and, just go out and chop trees. It's I mean, it's crazy, but, it it's so it's such a good workout.

Karl: It'll make you feel better. It actually boost your testosterone. So many things about just chopping wood. It's so such a basic man thing. Now every dude. Now we're going to have a severe drop as a tree shortly after this episode is released. We're going to get blamed for destroying the rainforest. Oh no, we're going to we're going to get protested.

Karl: We're going to get protester because they're advocating for destruction of trees. Oh, man. Yeah. Again, I love the fact that you're you're writing this novel because I think this goes back to why journaling is so important. Right. And this is a journey, and I've recently reinforced myself to do is journaling allowing your, your, your feelings and allowing you are an ally.

Karl: People are like, oh, you know, I don't want to write about my feelings. Well, we have to, you know, we have to because it allows you to, you know, to physically see how what you're experiencing, you know, in your emotional state, it's it gives you a sense of peace. When you write about these things, you're able to get it out to you, right?

Karl: But you're doing it in such a way for others to actually get impact from your story. Right? You're allowing others that that are the days out there in this world that have gone through some of the things you've gone through, and they don't know how to process it. Right. They don't know how to process just this past. They never got past it.

Karl: They're using that anger as fuel, but they're using it in a very destructive manner. Yep. Or the whole victim and yeah. Exactly, exactly. You mentioned some some gold here. But I want to talk to those days right now that are listening right now that Saint Dave man I can wholly resonate with your story or man that happened to me too.

Karl: Or or they, they too suffer with this, this anger, right? This pent up anger that rages on. So, you know, what do you tell that day? Like what are some things that they could do right now? Right. Well, what are some things they could do right now to, you know, get into a different version of themselves? We don't have to rely on anger in a destructive manner.

Karl: Yeah. I'll do two main things. And, I mean, we could pick those apart, too, if we want to, on something physical, find something physical to burn energy and something you enjoy. Like, I hate running. Running. People that love running or just weird, it's not natural. I like working. I hate running, but, man, I'll.

Karl: I've got backpacks and weights up on the front porch, and I'll just throw some weights in a backpack. I can take off walking and, enjoy it. And, you know, the health benefits are about the same. You don't get as far, but, you know, it also feels more manly. You know, you see, most runners is a scrawny, skinny little guy.

Karl: And of course, with my history, I'm thinking I could take him and see a guy rocking it. It's like. Like, you know, if he's doing this with that big backpack, if he takes the backpack over, chases me, I'm in trouble. So, so something physical, something you enjoy. And, secondly, I would say, don't forsake professional help us.

Karl: This past year, I started seeing a therapist and, at the VA, and, it's been tremendously helpful. And the weird thing is, it's not a a veteran. It's not a guy my age or an old Vietnam veteran. My, that's a therapist. Now. It's just. Girl, there's probably no more than five years out of college. And I'm telling her things that she's like, oh, crap, this dude is messed up.

Karl: But, but in a non judgy way. She's actually not very, you know, she's not judgmental about it, but, it's just nice to be able to just talk openly about that stuff and all this kind of stuff. I mean, you know, the things I can't see on camera or just not ready to reveal yet that have happened to me or I've done.

Karl: Okay. So statute of limitations isn't up or anything. And, it's it's just not. And it goes out, man. Yeah. It's, it's just nice to be able to talk to somebody like that. And so I would say, you know, find a way to, to have a therapist or somebody talk to man, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm also on that same journey.

Karl: It's ironic, you know, how close or you know, how similar we are in a lot of ways, man, because that's something I've been a journey. I've been explore two and I, I've been told numerous by numerous individuals in, you know, numerous times throughout my life, man, you NE not well. Yes, because of situations and so forth. Just because of the demons we battle with the voices in, in the fit of rages and all of this stuff.

Karl: Right? And unfortunately, you know, it is shunned upon, right? Especially for us dudes. You know, we can't talk about our emotions. We can't talk about our feelings. And, you know, but to your point, man, there is something about sitting in front of somebody, virtually or in person to sit down that is not family, that doesn't have the baggage behind them of all the past, and just sit there and to communicate everything right, and pray that the person doesn't run all the authorities.

Karl: Yeah. I mean, and that's why I don't recommend you open up to your pastor like this. Done counseling with my pastor before, and no matter what they say, they'll look at you different. The wonder if, you're safe in the church or, if you're good for a leadership position because you've had all this trouble. I mean, you know.

Karl: Yeah, I like I suggest you find somebody outside your friend group. Social group. You know, all that agree in. Not that I'm, you know, not to this video sponsor. You know anything nature but better help. I think it's better help. Yeah. Is an online platform that provides that virtually so and they're really cost efficient. So, you know, for those that, you know, feel comfortable going outside your house, you know, there's there's one avenue for you now your Instagram, Facebook's gonna be flooded with these kind of advertisements.

Karl: You're welcome. But I, I agree wholeheartedly man I think that's important for every person you know. You know to your point to him not to do it inside your church. I know a lot of pastors advocate for that, but I have to disagree because there is some type of it's not out of malice tant or anything. It's just, you know, it's there, right?

Karl: It's out there. So and it's weird because as a Christian, I would go to a non Christian counselor before I would go to my pastor with some of the stuff. Really. Why is there? I'm curious. Interesting because a Christian, even a Christian counselor of of I've been to 1 or 2, they all have their own versions of, you know, denominational ism or things like that.

Karl: And first thing they do is get judgy. But when I go to a non-Christian counselor, they've got all the therapeutic techniques and the DVT skills, all that kind of stuff. But I can also explain my religious upbringing, like how how the, the, the little Independent Baptist Church I grew up in was part of the reason I got screwed up.

Karl: Not all churches, but I'm just saying the one I went to horrible. Part of the reason I got so angry, I mean, and so but I can go to these non-Christian counselors and explain my Christian upbringing. And they've not been judgy. They've not been anti-religion. It's all the things that people are afraid of. I've not experienced in that regard.

Karl: It's a very good perspective, man. I ain't think about that until you're talking about that, because I can relate to that. You know, going through, you know, in my earlier years of my father, you know, him and I are going through various types of churches and, yeah, I mean, we've had all kinds of experiences, too, from your traditional, you know, southern, Southern Baptist type of churches to you, you name it, I'm not, you know, and again, this is nothing against the church, right?

Karl: We're not talking about anything about, you know, not going to the church. And you know, that we're just, you know, I mean, that's a different point we're trying to make here is, you know, make sure you're careful with who you share your affection with, who you share your past with. Man, because I agree with you. I mean, there have been a few times I have communicated, and this is probably why it was very hard for me to open up, because a few times I did, it came back to haunt me.

Karl: You know, it was actually used against me, you know, as ammunition to harm me, you know, or you become the third sermon point. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Or as I'm getting more and more success or as I'm gaining steam. Right. And I'm starting to overcome some things, you know, they use that one ammunition to knock me down. And it's like, man, it was that shock me.

Karl: Right? It's like it just makes that comeback even much harder because they knew that little screw right there at the turn. Yeah. One reason I don't mind coming out on the podcasts like this about some of my past everything, because I kind of figure, you know, if I do run for president someday, I just want all the stuff out in the open.

Karl: And, the more that's out of our freedom, if we're going to dig for. You know, now, I've always said I'm going to run for president, but I don't want to be president. I just want to give the experience more power to you, man. Yeah. I would not want that job. That's a horrible job. I mean, no, and not even thinking political.

Karl: I mean, just the the the level of security, the loss of freedom, the low pay, everything about it I agree. Yeah, I, I'm with you, man. I am with you. Well hey, can I have more thing. Yeah, absolutely. One more thing for success or, you know, getting past all this stuff is, paying attention to your, your foundation, your hardware.

Karl: So I mentioned doing something physical, but making sure your body is in shape. I just started, on, week three of testosterone therapy now because, apparently I wasn't aggressive enough, and, so now I'm doing testosterone therapy, and, I've got a level of energy already. That is crazy. I mean, I'm really bouncing everywhere now.

Karl: Before I would get all sluggish at 3:00 in the afternoon and have to drink coffee just to wake me up, I, I I'm, I'm right there with you. Do. This is scary, man, because I'm just pumped right now because, earlier this year, actually, probably late last year, I have really been more laser focused on my health.

Karl: And it's it's funny how that works when you start to see more hospital visits and start to see your body theory. Right? But I haven't put a lot attentional focus into my health in in not your like, traditional ways, right. Where you're taking all these supplements and vitamins, you know, but more of like just listening to your body doing you know, fasting and, you know, getting your blood checked like your full blood panel.

Karl: They'll just go to the doctor. Hey, I need my blood panel. No, no, no, no, you get your whole your all of your blood, you know, tested for all your markers and all that stuff. And my testosterone, it was extremely close to 70. Well, you know, for me. Yeah. So and I, I've done to system therapy before, you know, through shots and may I swear I was chasing my wife around a house, that's all.

Karl: Yeah. That's been one of the side effects that I've enjoyed.

Karl: It is definitely a side effect to enjoy for sure. So, you know, for those who are listening that, you know, they're they're feeling sluggish and they feel like they're just burnout, like 2 or 3:00 in the afternoon, you know, go get your blood shirt. Yeah. Full blood. Replace all that caffeine with, testosterone. Yeah, absolutely. This are your spouse for what's to come when they, you know, start a therapy?

Karl: Yeah. It works. I mean, I was in the four hundreds, and, I mean, so wasn't even as low as yours, but, I guess I had enough symptoms that, you know, talked the doc into it, and, Yeah, I'm enjoying it, though, and my kids are enjoying watching me do the shots. I'm glad Demps are doing it.

Karl: Do you play darts with Dave? Nice. I can actually see that, actually. Oh, my gosh, that's funny. My daughter taking peptides, which is another. Oh yeah, that I've been exploring, you know, doing peptide therapy and and whatnot. And she's 19. She's you know, getting I mean she's always been physical fitness since she was a young woman actually doing BMX now actually before she was doing martial arts.

Karl: And she's been athletic for all her life. And now she's really focused on personal training and and so forth. And now she's recently gone to peptide therapy and she's very anti blood. Very. Which is funny because before up until a couple months ago, her track was going to be premed. She was going to be a neurosurgeon or trauma surgeon.

Karl: Oh. Well, like so we are you're gonna see a lot of blood in that path. Yeah, yeah, but she is very anti needle, you know. And so she came home the other day, with a new set of needles for her peptides. She's going to take them and they're a bigger gauge. It's like oh my God, that hurts.

Karl: Man, I hate needles, man. You're you're you're you went in at the same time or close to the time I did when they, you know, when you go in. Right. And you, you have to do your immunizations. There's there's no needles. Right. There's these guns. Yeah. You know, they pounding your shoulder, man, I thought I was a combat medic for a long time too.

Karl: And I did immunizations for like, that was my job was doing immunizations for the whole state. Oh, you got joy out of that. Oh, my goodness. And it was so much fun when the guys with tattoos would pass out just from a a little I am needle. Oh yeah. Yeah. You're the guy that had this massive smile. Relax.

Karl: Yeah. Relax. It won't hurt tomorrow. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. So let's get to some. You've given a lot of practical advice, and I, I love this, you know, for those who are. Listen, I really want to, you know, dive into some specifics. You know, you talk about movement and so forth. And one of the things that I quote you on from your bio is your you, you say action over meditation, which I wholly agree, but a lot of people were like, action to over meditation.

Karl: So, you know, most people say breathe journal. But you say move, right? You know, those who are listening right now. Explain that, you know, what do you mean by that? And the weird thing is, people assume I'm against meditation, but, I mean, I've actually got my journal sitting right here beside me that I do every day journal, and I do meditate and, I mean, and that's been great for some of the health problems I've had that I credit meditation with healing some of the things that have been wrong with me over the years.

Karl: But, I find that people, most people use it as an excuse for for lack of movement. I'm going to sit here and think about it, or I'm gonna sit here and ponder this, or I'm going to do a pro and con list and reading a book yesterday. I'm a big fan of The Matrix and, the whole red pill blue pill scenario, and I never really thought about it until I read this in a book I was reading yesterday and talking about the red pill.

Karl: The red pill was only knowledge. It was an action. When neo took the red pill, it only exposed and told him what was going on. And most people stopped taking the pill. Like people that are taking all these GLP one medications and everything. And and those are, you know, nothing wrong with those if that's what you want to do, but they'll take it and not change their lifestyle.

Karl: And they think, okay, I can take this. And now I can still eat like a pig and never work out. And, you know, there's never been a piece of gym equipment I wasn't going to waddle away from. And that's why I movement. I mean, and I'm a big fan of move first, even when you don't have all the answers.

Karl: The, Seth Godin used to have this thing, he called it. He said, ship it. Like, ship it before. It's perfect. Like, ship it when it's good enough. And so my thinking is, just get off the couch and move. You got a workout plan before you get a trainer, before you get a gym membership, you have the next business idea.

Karl: Just start moving and it'll help, you know, way more than meditation most of the time. I agree a when you agree that you know, a lot of people prevent even taking a first step because of overthinking over complicating, waiting for that perfect fill in the blank, you know, perfect. Time and again, if money again a skill, get enough knowledge, get a, you know, blah blah blah blah blah, right?

Karl: Yeah. Just take the first step and it's it also that differentiates the differentiation between goals and dreams. Everybody's got dreams and, you know, for instance, my wife here on the farm, she'll talk about want to have bees or goats or anything else, but she'll never do it. I'm the one that's like one of the Tractor Supply.

Karl: And buying stuff and and putting some work in, and then she'll help. But that's the difference between goals and dreams. You have dreams. I have dreams, but it's when it becomes a goal that it's actually moving beyond meditation to to action. Awesome, man. Awesome. So you mentioned in your bio, right? Your your plan B concept. Right. And this is where a lot of people, myself included, struggle with relationships, right?

Karl: Counting on people. And when they let you down, you know, it just it really reduces your motivation. I hate to use that word motivation, but it really reduces the motivation to continue to rely on people. Right? So you say in your bio, you know, people let you down, always have a plan B. So walk us through that. You know what?

Karl: What is this plan B or how to even build your plan B? That's that's where I got the name from my website, the red team goals. Because in the military we were red team things and, you know, red team. For those of the people that don't know, I know you're familiar with them, but people that don't realize red teams are the ones that this the good guys, but they would play bad guys and come in and try to destroy everything.

Karl: You build plans or in the military, you would actually have guys physically invade bases and, you know, track people and things like that. And so red teaming all those plans. And so that's where a bit of the stoicism and everything comes in is just look at what is the worst thing that could possibly happen, like what does failure look like.

Karl: And then try to plan around that. And so that's always part of my planning when I do things. And so when I do count on people, I always have in mind, like, what if they screw it up or don't deliver or, I find people well, nobody's going to be as determined about your thing as you are. But even if you're paying somebody or their family or an employee or whatever, they're never going to be as determined and sold into it as you are.

Karl: And so I always try to plan for that just in case. And, just so I'm not totally surprised, not that it doesn't increase my workload or make things hard on me when they do screw things up, but, I'm a little more ready for it. To your point, and I read this, actually, I remember if I read this or it was a video I watched, but, I think it was from Marigold.

Karl: In fact, I don't know if you if you know who we are. Oh, yeah. But a very, very phenomenal dude. He mentioned something to the effect of, you know, you talking about, you know, people not seeing or having ownership of of what you your vision is. Right. And I love where he broke this down. Yeah. I like to get your feedback on this because I think that's why I'm here correctly is, you know, God puts this vision in your mind, right?

Karl: He puts his goal and his vision. You're his dream in you, right? It's not for other peoples to see. It's not for other people to get ownership of or to to get seek approval from. Right. And this is where I have to give foster with people with because they feel like they have to get other people's buy in the gate.

Karl: It's okay for them to go chase. This vision is dreams, hope, aspiration. Right. So is that what I'm understanding from you is a this is what you know, God's plan to for you. And you know this is your way of protecting that. I mean, God's given me. If God's given me a vision for something, whether I get help, whether the help deserts me, anything.

Karl: I mean, it's kind of like, well, when when, bad things start to happen in the Jesus, they all left. And, was it John Mark that, ran so fast? He ran out of his coat and, got a plan for that. And, of course, Jesus had a plan, and they all came back. That's the neat thing is, you can plan the plan B, but sometimes they'll come back and they they'll buy in differently.

Karl: And, you know, we see what happened with the Gospels, how they all came back and, and the plan worked for them and they all then they spread out and did amazing things. I love that. And so those are listening. If you've got that dream, hope, aspiration or vision or whatever, please, you know, don't let other people's lack of buy and lack of approval or whatever sway you because as if you're not listening, if you haven't been paying attention, you know, this vision has been planted a new for a very specific reason, for a very specific purpose, not for other people.

Karl: Like myself or Dave, to get our buy in on the process. Right. So oh yeah, and friends and family will try to talk you out of it most of the time. Oh, a hundred, I mean, I could get a W2 job at a gas station and my friends and family are going to be like, yeah, it's a good job.

Karl: Good, good thing you're working full time. So try to start a business or have a big idea like a podcast like this. People are going to be like, is that a real thing? How do you make money? What do you what are you going to do when that feels? That's something that causes tension in our family, you know, is that, you know, and I agree wholeheartedly, you know, in fact, I had a guest on not too long ago talking about, you know, security.

Karl: I see this sarcastically security of the 9 to 5, you know, because there is no security in the element, right? Yes, there's the perceived security in a sense that you show up and you you get pay for said time, but that boss can walk in any point in time and say, see you right? Because you smell funny. You look differently.

Karl: Maybe you forgot the brush. You know, you're you're one two step more. Yeah. Yep. Or Covid hits and you're out of work for two years, right? Yeah. Exactly. That didn't happen. Yeah. That was sarcasm. Yeah I agree wholeheartedly, man. The most secure investment, this most biggest security is you yourself. You know. And unfortunately to me, people don't believe that because of what other people have installed into them.

Karl: Right. You're into you know, like you think of the term here, but they don't get me wrong. I mean, I see people with the security of a job and it's it is a facade, but still I'll see it sometimes though, and, and see somebody making 140 K a year and not hustle and half as hard as I do and and think like, should I do it?

Karl: Should I look for a job? But then I think, no, I can't have a boss. There's no way I can work with a boss these days. I'm with you, man. It's not just the money aspect to is to freedom. Yeah, just a freedom. You know, being able to dictate your your life. I mean, look what we're doing, right?

Karl: We're we're sitting here having an amazing conversation, right? Doing what we love, talking about what we love doing. Was it easy? Hail? No. Right. But that's what makes it worth it, right? When you get to that peak, when you get to that point, it's like, man, this journey was so amazing because yes, it hurt, but it helped me become the individual that I am today, helped me become this this person that.

Karl: You see that? Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, just today, I like this morning I'm out in my iron barn. That's what we call it, the iron barn. Two little kids working out love that name. And as soon as that's done, me and my son were filming a video for the NFL. In a fall flag. I've got a contract with them, and we're filming a video for one of their commercials.

Karl: Then I come here and I'm doing this, and after this, I'm going to go upstairs and go have lunch with my kids. And how many dads can can say, I mean, just in one day. I've done what? What most dads would dream about spending that much time with my kids doing fun things. Yeah, that's a good point, man.

Karl: Oh yeah, that's right. You're a UGC creator too. And you do it, man. Your resume gets larger and larger every minute we talk. Oh, man. And since I don't do it anymore, like, we all even talk about the medical stuff and the disaster medic and all that, but that's that's like a whole different life. I mean, I used to do, hyperbaric medicine research and just so much fun stuff.

Karl: That's crazy man, I love it. I hope everybody is listening, is getting because I'm certainly, you know, getting inspired and getting a lot of wisdom here. And I appreciate you sharing all this because, man, this really gives hope for all the days out there that have experienced a very similar pass or a flavor of it, but they've talked themselves out of opportunities, they talked themselves out of being able to be the best parent, the best spouse, the best entrepreneur, or just, you know, if you're a fry cook at McDonald's, okay, be the best fry cook.

Karl: McDonald's. There's no shame in that. Yeah, right. We've all been there, myself included. So, you know, please, you know, take this because we are no different. Just because we're sitting here having an amazing conversation of talking about these things, we too came from a very different path, right? We we didn't have we had to work for what we have today.

Karl: We didn't have anybody, you know, funding us. We didn't have anybody that was here to save us. Nobody's here to save us. Right. And as we wrap up in I hate this because, man, our hand is such an amazing conversation. I feel like there's around two, around three coming up. So those are listen, if you want round two of three, let me know because I'm sensing it.

Karl: But maybe just me. Maybe just the caffeine I don't know. Yeah I'll give I'll give them a little taste of what they could have to. Behind me beside Chucky, there's a screwdriver, little tiny screwdriver. That's for him right there. And, somebody tried to stab me with that, so I've got it framed in my office. Yeah, so I won't say anything else.

Karl: So if people want to hear the full story, they got to. You got to tell you they want me back. Love this. All right, part two. It's definitely coming. At least it maybe just you and I right now. I'm fine with it, but I got to hear this story now. I got to hear this story, especially. Be senseless next to this Chucky doll.

Karl: God does freak me out, dude. That's why I have him. My mom used to freak me out with that when I was little. Yeah, right next to the battle ax and other other tools of of war that you have next to it. This makes perfect sense. Guys. You got to check out the YouTube video because, you know, just imagine this highly well-spoken, carried, you know, very high IQ guy.

Karl: But he's, you know, he does not resemble this. Right? He's your true Viking all sense of that word as we wrap up and you, you mentioned in your, in your intake, you know, that, you know, toughness through adversity, you know, is your definition of grit, man, I could not agree more, you know, can you give an example of maybe this just week of of how that might have been displayed, this through adversity?

Karl: Yeah. I'm a weird thing. Is I'm actually in a huge slump, right now financially. And I've been doing a bunch of videos about it just to open up, but, last year, lost some clients. Got kicked out of my dad's business that I was working for the family business, and lost a tremendous amount of money.

Karl: And the weird thing is, is, Yeah, it's stressful. And, yes, it, reduces, like, just mental margin that I have to do things. But it's spurred me in a way that, I'm trying to bounce back stronger, better, faster, from that and, you know, figure out, okay, where were the mistakes in this? And what can I change about what I'm doing now that that's not going to happen again?

Karl: Oh, thank you for sharing that. Because I especially in this season of life, I've often been asking myself, okay, what can I learn from this? God, what you trying to teach me here? Right. Because we can easily get into other side of the spectrum, right? This victim mentality was me, blah blah blah, right. But you're you choosing, choosing, deciding, not choosing.

Karl: You're deciding because choice you choose, you make it known as there's a choice there, right? But you're deciding what kind of learn from this, you know, guide. What are you trying to teach me here? Because there is a lesson learned, right? You know, about you asking the right questions or question to reveal. You know, this, this could be something that God is trying to protect you from because he sees this major adversity.

Karl: He's coming up. He's like, hey, bro, take this detour right over here. Maybe a little painful, but it's going to be a lot less painful than this route that you're going to be than the other route. Right. Thanks for sharing it, man. Because, you know, a lot of people that are listening right now, they're dealing with their own weeks, you know, of adversity.

Karl: And they need that. They need to hear, you know, this, right? So in this season of life, man, you know, there's always been talks of, you know, special around New Years, right? There's oh, you know, ad this ad that, you know whether it's habits you know or systems process. But in recent times I have really focused on subtracting.

Karl: Right. Whether it's people, it's habits, beliefs, things I've had to unlearn. Right. And I love what you said on your you know, I mentioned it earlier, you abhor lazy people is one habit you're trying to actively quit, or maybe something you've had to unlearn or, you know, ethic, nature, you know, so that you can level up. Hey, man, that that's a good one.

Karl: Because of this stuff I'm going through with the finances right now, God is forcing me to get rid of some stuff that I should have said no to, or things that I should have realized I didn't need in my life. And so that this year, the subtraction is a big thing for me in terms of what do I need to say?

Karl: No more to instead of saying yes to everything because I am a big, you know, fear of missing out guy, the FOMO and, fear of missing out. So I'll say yes to everything, or I want in on everything or one of micromanage. And I'm learning to say no to more and just there being more that, can go by without my input.

Karl: I agree, I agree. I got to ask you, sometimes I just want to ask who your mom is because, man, I it's like, am I really talking to Dave here? It sounds like I'm talking to my other self here. So I if I'm hearing correctly, it's addition by subtraction, right? Yep. You know, it's a big thing that's going on with you right now.

Karl: And I could certainly really resonate with that for sure. I just got fired from my, my church volunteer job recently, and, that's a whole long story about, you know, fighting corporate church kind of mentality. But once I, I mean, it hurt when I did because I was like, wow, they they don't think I'm capable of doing this thing because they don't like something I was asking about.

Karl: But then it's freed up some time and stress and just it's one more thing I have to mess with, you know? And not that. Not that you. Not that I'm telling everybody you should stop doing your church volunteer jobs. But I, I moved back towards something God had wanted me to do, that I had let busyness get in the way of.

Karl: And so that's, I replaced it with something that should have been there in the first place that time. Love it. Man, love it man. A lot of gold here, a lot of gold. So 60s of grace, because I'm of the belief that high achievers, one of the biggest downfalls is they're expert critics of themselves, right? They often hold on to the guilt, shame or things that we we've either we did or things people done to us.

Karl: Right? We hold on to that thinking it's our fault. But what is one thing that you've had to forgive yourself to give 60s to forgive yourself for so that you can just mental space? You're talking all right. What is something you've had to forgive yourself so you can have more mental space and have the freedom to move forward?

Karl: A bad parent? I've got five kids, and my two oldest actually, like, fled as soon as they could and told us they hated us. Anything to do with us. And that made me reflect a lot and a lot of, regret. Like, regret over some things I didn't even know. Like, what did I do wrong?

Karl: I would feel that regret, but not have any answers. Then looking back, I mean, yeah, we as parents, we can all look back and see things where we screwed up, or we could have done better. And of course, your first kid is always an experiment as a parent because you don't know what you're doing. Yes. And, the last kid that's one of the last one gets spoiled because you're such an awesome parent, brother.

Karl: And, but that's one thing. Yes. Yeah. Awesome. One thing I've had to look back on and give myself some grace on, in that I did the best I could. And they're making choices right now that aren't necessarily they don't necessarily have anything to do with me or what I did. It's just the way they process things, the way they saw things.

Karl: And it doesn't mean I'm not. It doesn't mean I'm perfect. I didn't do wrong, but it does mean I don't have to live with shame or anything. Or, as the verse in Romans, I don't have to live with the condemnation that they're casting my way. Thanks for sharing it, man. And I think a lot of parents, if not all, I can't see.

Karl: All because that's a definitive statement there. But I think a lot of parents can resonate with what you just shared there, and they think they needed to hear that. To be honest with you, the they have that sense of like freedom. Yeah. Because I, I too can personally resonate with that. Right. Tell them that story. Just how many parents have told me, like, yeah, one of my kids, and it's usually one of the oldest kids.

Karl: They just decided, I want nothing to do with my parents. I wish they weren't my parents. I mean, and it's amazing how many people have gone through that. I agree wholeheartedly, there are some fellows in my life that, you know, we're talking about this, you know, in our lives and it's not talked about enough, in my opinion, because, you know, the more we talk about this, more we can bring to light that it's not just them.

Karl: Right? They're not the only ones that's been through this. And to your point, man, you did the best you could with what you have. It's okay. You know, it's not like there is a parenting guide. Drop the gun. Boom. Right where you know. Here you go, doctor Dave. Yeah, here you go, Carl. You know, that doesn't happen. And this has come out a lot like this memo.

Karl: I mean, I've had my kids accuse me of being a narcissist. And so my therapist at the VA, I've talked to them and like, hey, what does that mean? I need you to tell me if I am alone or not. Because if I am, I need to fix it. And, yeah, I mean, according to my therapist, it's just my kids making crap up that they've heard on TikTok videos or whatever.

Karl: And casting that my way. You know? Wait a minute. TikTok's nothing. You can't take it for everything for TikTok. Yeah, anything on the internet is true. You just verified three other sources on social media. Oh my gosh, don't tell my youngest that man. Oh all right man. So, you know, wrapping up, is, as I mentioned in the green room to get your, your brain juices going because it sounds like you've got a, a few of them you pull from.

Karl: But while you're in the trenches, while you're in the thick of it, ma'am, especially as maybe you're feeling your face get red, get flush. Right. What is one called or directive or something? You tell yourself to get through that, right? What is something you tell yourself? You coach yourself with this one? A lot of people it doesn't resonate with, but people that it does, they really get it.

Karl: But, it's a personal mantra of mine that, moderation is for pussies, that you just need to go full bore. And, and don't get me wrong, there are some things you shouldn't start. And so don't start something bad and then go full bore to that. But, if you feel you're doing your calling on your path, doing your thing, go full bore.

Karl: Don't quit. Don't let anything get in your way. Just fight for that thing. Agree. Unapologetically. Yeah. Yep. All right, last question, but this is a two part question. You know, I mentioned this in a green room. You know, part of my interview is I love kind of like, this Chingford process, right, where my previous guest ask gets to ask my next guests if there are my seat, what would be a, you know, something they would like to know in their in their life.

Karl: Like it could be a challenge or anything of that nature. Right. So here is hero's a challenge from Alaska. She's navigate a massive pivot and ask this. And before I do it, just seems how fitting every question is as I'm looking at this. Just like, oh, doesn't change. So she asked this marketing is overwhelming and has a million different aspects.

Karl: If you had to just pick one priority or one skill and mark, you need to focus on to move the needle, what would it be different? I mean, it's kind of cliche because I mean, Seth Godin with the whole purple cow thing and all that, but it's it's cliche because it's true. It's just that most people don't do it be different.

Karl: I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean, you just got to stand out somehow, but stand out in your own way. I mean, like me, I'm. I'm the. I don't mind looking like, Viking Santa Claus guy. And when I do, like, keynote speeches and stuff, you get a bunch of, just knuckleheads get up there and they're just, you know, clean cut, short hair, blue suit, red tie and all that.

Karl: I get up there and look like, you know, Snoop Dogg, thugga. And, people remember me, though. And the funny thing is, they don't remember the name. They don't remove my name. It's always, I love that bold, red bearded guy. Like, I don't remember his name. He was awesome. Bring him back. And, So yes, my look is kind of it's part of my marketing.

Karl: It's what God blessed me with. God uncovers what is beautiful. And, And so, I just use this, but you gotta find your own thing. I mean, because if there is somebody out there listening to this, that is one of those knuckleheads that's just going cut everything that they, maybe they can use that in some way.

Karl: You know, and that's going to appeal to some other group. It's just not who I'm trying to hit. No. That's perfect. I again, you hit the nail on the head, I, I agree in a, in a especially in an era where it's distraction. Right. We're we're in this era of distraction where everything's fighting for our attention. Right.

Karl: And so instead of trying to be like everybody else and everything else, be you, right, be your authentic self, we, you know, just be yourself. I'm reminded of this movie, man, it was, Seinfeld. I think it was, it was an animated movie with, with the bumble bees. Oh, yeah. The bee movie.

Karl: Yeah. The bee movie. Yup. Hey, what a funny title, right? But that's it, man. You know, just be you. And because that right there helps you stand out for sure, man. And it that's it. How you leave them with the experience, right. The experience that you give them, allowing them to see this Vikings Santa Claus and allowing them to see and the experience that that that stays with them.

Karl: Yeah. Right. Yep. You know, you know being like the next guy, the next guy and the next guy, it's just like, yeah, there was nothing that really stood out. But that do right there look like he can, you know, carry a battle ax in the same hand with the Santa Claus or the, you know, the toy sack. I like that dude.

Karl: Yeah. You know. Yeah. I mean, a lot of, like, there's a good friend. You probably know him. I won't say, because I'm going to go against his advice. I won't say his name, but says when he's doing keynote speaking, dress one level higher than the crowd. Like if they're wearing polos, wear suit thinking is always dressed one level sideways from the crowd.

Karl: I mean a kilt or, you know, or just no suit. I mean, but whatever I have one that kills is anytime I do a wedding, I always tell them, like, I will not do your wedding. Unless you let me wear to kill a man. That's your non-negotiable. That's awesome. Yeah. No, I I I agree, man, I think there is too.

Karl: And don't get me wrong, there is always, you know, play time and a place for, you know, suits and all that good stuff. Right. But you know, same time. And you've got to learn how to be able to stand out. You know, I've known people who don't, you know, don't cheat, have done keynote speeches and in jeans and t shirt, don't get me wrong, they were clean, right?

Karl: But they don't in jeans and t shirt and their performance was really well. Yeah. So. And I kind of learned this watching I used to think I had to adhere to everybody else, but, I saw Don Miller doing some speeches one time, and, this was in his early days. He's more polished now, but he was the goofiest speaker so good in everything back in the old days.

Karl: And it made me realize, like, wow, I can do this. I want to be different from him, but I can do this. Yeah, that's it, man. That's what gives you your edge. Man's being different. So imagine that concept. All right. So what is the question you would love to ask my next guest. Oh, and not knowing who they're going to be.

Karl: This is so much fun. Let's do a little Viking with this one. So, when adversity hits, the question you should ask is, did you piss blood? Because if if you're not, then things aren't that bad. And looking at my next guest and it's actually perfect, hopefully it's not a very now. It's not now. No, no, it's actually fitting.

Karl: Okay. Good. Good. So. Oh, awesome. Dude. Well, David, I really appreciate you joining me, man. You did this. Give us the best selling author version of this conversation, right? You you really allowed us to get behind the scenes and really share your journey with us. And I respect you. You allow us a glimpse into that, right? The anger, you know, and the trauma.

Karl: And but it also forged you, who you are today. Right? It fuel that engine to create the successes you've had and to create the life that you get to enjoy today. Right? Yep. So you just didn't share that trophy. And I really appreciate and honor you for that, because oftentimes, especially in today's era, everybody is all about sharing the highlight reels.

Karl: Right. And that leads people wondering, what am I doing wrong? What's wrong with me? Right. So again today, my dude, I appreciate you sharing the journey. Yes. Appreciate and fun. Yeah man. Absolutely. Just got there's definitely gonna be a part two of this for sure. So if you're listening, please, I will do this by the amount of reviews that this gets left.

Karl: Right? Haha. We'll use this to our benefit. So if you want to part two of this conversation and hear the story of the screwdriver, be beside Chucky. Give me a give me some reviews. All right. So the for the person that is listening that is resonate with this story with yours. I mean it's like, man, I'm like, Dave's lost brother here or sister or what have you, right?

Karl: Or they just want to support you in your journey to encourage you or what have you, or learn about what you do more, especially in the policy space. What is the best place that where they can find you? Man suit best is, red team goals.com. That's my website. They can find out everything I do and even, they can book a stay here in my Haunted Barn website.

Karl: Red team gold.com. All right. Definitely give me a link in that in the show notes. So along with some socials that we have for you and those are that you there are all about the haunted you go for me. Nope. But we've got skinwalkers here on the property that will, you know, they'll come out and play with you, that kind of thing.

Karl: Yeah. I'll pass or pass. All right. To those listening, here's reality. You know, the gap between average and excellence is action, which definitely is an alarm of this episode. David said action over meditation. So, you know, don't just listen, get off the couch and do one thing today, right? Do just do one thing. And if this episode add a value to do the work of a leader and share it.

Karl: Texas. Link to one person who needs a kick in the ass today. So David, thank you again today for stepping in Reno, my dude. Appreciate you. Yeah, absolutely.

Karl: Let's do a little Viking with this one. So, when adversity hits, the question you should ask is, did you piss blood? Because if if you're not, then things aren't that bad. And looking at my next guest and it's actually perfect, hopefully it's not a very now. It's not now. No, no, it's actually fitting.

Karl: Okay. Good. Good. So. Oh, awesome. Dude. Well, David, I really appreciate you joining me, man. You did this. Give us the best selling author version of this conversation, right? You you really allowed us to get behind the scenes and really share your journey with us. And I respect you. You allow us a glimpse into that, right? The anger, you know, and the trauma.

Karl: And but it also forged you, who you are today. Right? It fuel that engine to create the successes you've had and to create the life that you get to enjoy today. Right? Yep. So you just didn't share that trophy. And I really appreciate and honor you for that, because oftentimes, especially in today's era, everybody is all about sharing the highlight reels.

Karl: Right. And that leads people wondering, what am I doing wrong? What's wrong with me? Right. So again today, my dude, I appreciate you sharing the journey. Yes. Appreciate and fun. Yeah man. Absolutely. Just got there's definitely gonna be a part two of this for sure. So if you're listening, please, I will do this by the amount of reviews that this gets left.

Karl: Right? Haha. We'll use this to our benefit. So if you want to part two of this conversation and hear the story of the screwdriver, be beside Chucky. Give me a give me some reviews. All right. So the for the person that is listening that is resonate with this story with yours. I mean it's like, man, I'm like, Dave's lost brother here or sister or what have you, right?

Karl: Or they just want to support you in your journey to encourage you or what have you, or learn about what you do more, especially in the policy space. What is the best place that where they can find you? Man suit best is, red team goals.com. That's my website. They can find out everything I do and even, they can book a stay here in my Haunted Barn website.

Karl: Red team gold.com. All right. Definitely give me a link in that in the show notes. So along with some socials that we have for you and those are that you there are all about the haunted you go for me. Nope. But we've got skinwalkers here on the property that will, you know, they'll come out and play with you, that kind of thing.

Karl: Yeah. I'll pass or pass. All right. To those listening, here's reality. You know, the gap between average and excellence is action, which definitely is an alarm of this episode. David said action over meditation. So, you know, don't just listen, get off the couch and do one thing today, right? Do just do one thing. And if this episode add a value to do the work of a leader and share it.

Karl: Texas. Link to one person who needs a kick in the ass today. So David, thank you again today for stepping in Reno, my dude. Appreciate you. Yeah, absolutely.