The Grit Factor Podcast w/ Karl Jacobi

0:00:00 So, I feel like I, I don't know, I had always like looked at myself as like a, you know, like a good, a good person, a good guy, hopefully like a halfway decent role model and whatever.
0:00:15 And I was kinda going down this path where, you know, I was just like kind of partying a lot and like, like I would get off work and then I'd have 48 hours off like to do whatever.
0:00:28 you know and and so I feel like I wasn't I would I would like I would at least like work out and go to the gym and whatever but and like but then I'd like play video games and party and like that was like that's like all I did I ended up I ended up cheating on my girlfriend and and it's just like it
0:00:53 felt like rock bottom I felt so terrible about it and I was like I now like I need to you know take those right steps to be that man that I thought that I was but I wasn't following you know I wasn't taking the actions that that Ted that I thought I was you know would do you know I was like I got to
0:01:17 be a better man and I got to find my purpose and like I got to like try to be the best Ted that I can be Ted welcome to the show man Carl thanks thank you and thank you for having me on yeah man it's an honor man I got to say before we get moving I love the stash man I love it thank you it actually survives
0:01:45 off compliments Yeah, honestly reminds me of the movie super troopers and every time I want to say you know look at him like who wants a mustache ride, right?
0:01:57 And this is where he say, I do. Yeah, I get that all the time. I can imagine, man, I can imagine.
0:02:05 Well, awesome, man, let's get cranked. and looking at your profile, looking at your dossier, by day, and create me from wrong, you're a full-time firefighter, you deal with real life and death and bio-means before you further.
0:02:22 Thank you for your service. I think that's probably one of the dangerous jobs that you can do on a planet.
0:02:29 One of the most dangerous, and I can resonate with that to some degree. I've had family that were in the fire department.
0:02:36 So, you know, thank you for your service, thank you for what you do, put your life out there. So, again, thank you.
0:02:44 But by night, which is kind of really interesting, you're an arbitrage sports better, I thought I said that correctly. You're pulling in some, you know, some pretty cool numbers and beating the books, beating the odds.
0:02:59 So, you know, to the average listener or watcher out there, that kind of sounds like, you know, oil and water, right?
0:03:08 So give us, give us an understanding, you know, who you are and who you are and how do those two worlds coexist?
0:03:20 Yeah, so, so it's nice because, you know, I worked 24 hours on at the firehouse and then I have 48 hours off.
0:03:30 And so I've, I've always had this like time to pursue something, which has really helped me, you know, take that time to figure something out.
0:03:44 And, you know, I started, you know, I met you through Amazon, I was doing Amazon FBA for about almost three years and eventually decided it wasn't for me, but I liked, you know, generating the spin that I kind of got into like credit card, like travel hacking and stuff, maximizing all that spin with
0:04:07 the credit cards. And then once I stopped with the Amazon, I was like, man, I really want something that I can generate spend on.
0:04:18 And ended up meeting up with like a local group of like travel hackers. And one of them had brought up like, oh that they'll like fund sportsbooks with like gift cards that they buy with credit cards.
0:04:37 And then they'll either do arbitrage bets or just like highly likely to win bets so that they're like you know spending and getting it to go through.
0:04:48 And then you can withdraw it. And and that was credit card spin. At the same time, someone from the Facebook community that I was in got into this sports betting coaching program and that's kind of when those two worlds kind of collided and I was like, you know, this sounds awesome.
0:05:09 So any who, that's kind of how I got into it and so, yeah, I used this software that shows me all of the different odds on different sports books.
0:05:27 And you know, you can make like arbitrage betting is making both sides, taking both sides of the same bet. And there's an inefficiency in the market where the odds are different, the payouts are different.
0:05:43 So you can guarantee yourself a profit if you just bet both sides on two different books where the odds are favorable so yeah it's awesome yeah so that's kind of how I guess a balance that's cool man that's that's interesting and I'm you know because my family or part of my family like my grandfather
0:06:10 and a few other family members they're also in the fire department and in fact in our own ecosystem we've got some firefighters or they used to be firefighters and They're constantly talking about doing things in their off time right and whether it's being a real estate agent or Building you know some
0:06:27 type of business. So it's cool that you You you you found some things you can build and I definitely want to dive into more of this System this process because I have been watching you from the sidelines and I'm you know like you said I've known you for I say known you probably no one of you and watched
0:06:44 your journey on Facebook and and watch the pivots that you've made. And I gotta tell you, man, outside looking in, not gonna hold all the details, which I'll cover in a minute, but it's been inspirational, man, because now outside looking at you, have not given up, right?
0:07:01 Now I love that you put into your profiles, like you refuse to quit, you refuse to give up the story, essentially.
0:07:09 You just essentially just pivoted, right? And so, you know, We're definitely going to dive into more of this process and so forth.
0:07:18 But if well, let me ask you this You know on your in your full-time job You know in your nine to five, although it's not nine to five Want me through what inspired you because I would love to know this What what what inspired you to be a firefighter was that something you dreamed of as an eight-year-old
0:07:41 or you know help me understand. So I it's not really something I dreamed of. I always thought it was like cool but you know I went to I went to Indiana University and go Hoosiers by the way.
0:08:00 Oh we had to go there. I hear you man bro what an amazing year for a man for sure for sure.
0:08:10 Yeah, it was incredible. But um, no, so like I was trying to make things work. I studied informatics. I ended up following a girl up to Chicago and tried to make it work up there.
0:08:26 And a couple like crazy things happened where I actually got fired from the job that I was at and kicked out of the place I was living in within three days of each other.
0:08:37 and that happened to be in the middle of the two-week period that the fire department was hiring in person in Indianapolis and you know I was trying to make it work in Chicago and so I basically just like forced to move back home to Indy after that happened and you know I wasn't planning on moving back
0:09:03 and I wanted to make so like I might have not even applied had I those things not happened and so like I honestly unexpectedly moved back and then I was like well I should probably apply for this and just kind of like once I learn more about it I was like this sounds amazing and I was like I need I need
0:09:24 to have this job That's so so getting hired on here. Yeah, make sense, man. Yeah, make sense. This kind of goes along with something I said earlier on a call, you know, sometimes the best thing that never happened to you was the best thing that the best thing that never happened to you.
0:09:44 Um, good lord. I'm going to spit that out. Oh, well, but I think I know what you're trying to say.
0:09:52 Yeah, it's like a blessing in disguise. Yeah, exactly. Is it kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a in disguise.
0:09:59 So basically, it wasn't like you just watched back draft, right? And we're like, Oh, I want to be that guy.
0:10:04 You know, Kurt Russell, I think is his name. And you know, go sound to be a firefighter and thinking you can just run on fire trucks and, you know, do things, right?
0:10:13 So yeah, sometimes there's a lot of lessons in the skies, you know, and cool, I appreciate you sharing it. All right, you walk into Bernie buildings for a living, inevitably that is a grave risk, right?
0:10:28 That's truly a real risk, and then you come home and risk capital on sports and betting. Does the stress of the firehouse or of that role, that job serve make the the fear or the losing of money feel smaller or do you feel that there are two different kinds of fear?
0:10:52 I think there are two different kinds of fear. One, most of the time at the firehouse, It's not like we're getting fires every single day, you know, but it's like But when we do get a fire, you know, when you do get in that, you know situation You know, it's a lot more a adrenaline and just like, you
0:11:21 know kind of just Falling back on your training and just figuring stuff out like in in the moment in the heat of the moment And so it's, it's very, it's pretty different, even though I do get like a little adrenaline from the, from the sports betting.
0:11:45 But, you know, the good part is it's like, I hedge all of my bets. So it's like, you know, if I, if I lose, I don't like truly lose.
0:11:57 Because I do a little bit something different than just like straight up arbitrage betting. it's more like trying to lose out of international sports books because if I lose out of them I can get more deposit bonuses from them.
0:12:18 That's kind of how I like what I do kind of differs from all the other arbitrage betters that you'll see post stuff which I don't know if that's big on your feet but it's big on my But yeah, I would say it's it's definitely more like adrenaline and just trying to figure stuff out in the moment on a fire
0:12:43 ground and then, you know, other than that, it's like I'm watching a game and I'm like hoping it can be really fun if you see if the bets going the way you want want it to.
0:12:55 But sometimes I choose, just not even to watch the game, because if it's not going the right way, then you know, it's just like, it's very hard for me to like, not feel bad.
0:13:09 And so it's been a real test on my like overall mood and keeping emotionally stable. Makes sense. So, but yeah, so they're both different, but both exciting.
0:13:24 Yeah, I can, I can understand that, right? I mean, when you're in the heat of things, following your pun there, right?
0:13:32 You know, I can definitely understand how it could be a super exciting, because not only are you getting that dopamine hit of your win, right?
0:13:40 On your team winning, but there's also the hidden reward, right? You know, things that you kind of alluded to, which we'll dive into more here in a moment, But all of the benefits that come with what you're doing, right, and so that's really interesting.
0:14:02 Let's get the average listener, if you will, moment of like how some of this can translate, right? So in your role as a firefighter, you follow a very specific protocol, right?
0:14:14 If you deviate any of this protocols, whether it's equipment, you know, inspections or how you dress, it's simple as is that may sound, but that's also very dire, right?
0:14:26 You know, there's a reason why there's boots and pants already on the ground, so all you gotta do is put your feet in, pull up, right?
0:14:33 If you deviate that protocol, people die, and it could be your fellow, you know, firefighters Or it could be the people that you're rescuing, you know, you have it.
0:14:45 So coming from that environment and then arbitrage But you follow a very specific system as well, right very specific set of protocols, and if you deviate you lose cash Not as grave, right, but you still lose cash, you know, so Did did your Skill set did your experience come at you know coming from the
0:15:08 firefighting arena, right? You coming from a firefighter? Did that experience train you for this business better? Like following systems, following protocol?
0:15:19 Did that translate into this? Oh, I mean, I guess you could maybe say that. It's really like it's not like you said, it's not as dire.
0:15:34 I mean, there are absolutely things that you want to like you know make sure you're doing everything right because most of the time the only way you screw up is human air you know with with the bedding you know also with firefighting but you know a lot of the firefighting is like the preparation and
0:15:56 the training beforehand and then it's just execution in the moment you know whereas like this is it's really not that complicated like it's the sports betting.
0:16:11 Like, you don't even really need to know a whole lot about sports. It's really just learning the odds and then using the software.
0:16:19 And so, I don't know, maybe, maybe, but I want to necessarily say that that's like why I'm good at this.
0:16:29 But yeah. That makes sense. Let me ask you, let me ask you this in a different way, right because especially in today's times man there is this there is this perceived success or there is this perceived this perception that you have to go to school in order to be successful right and you know this has
0:16:53 been a discussion you know that I've been in you know well there's been some heated discussions that I've been in you know with some loved ones and friends and and so forth and you know I'm not a high school graduate you know I'm a good enough diploma graduate you know GED you know and you know I did
0:17:12 go to school right but it wasn't you know I wasn't like I went to college right out of high school so I could be successful I just did it to kill time walls in the military.
0:17:23 But in your opinion, did you feel that maybe your experience as a firefighter learning strict protocols being disciplined in following systems and so forth?
0:17:47 Do you feel maybe yeah I mean I could see it I think I think that that like question that you get asked you know if you feel like you need that like schooling or whatever I think it all really depends on how you are like interacting with whatever the educational material is like yeah I feel like a lot
0:18:16 of people in college you know they're just kind of doing it because it's kind of expected to them and you know they're probably not learning a whole lot I mean unless you're like very specified field and like yeah you probably go into graduate school and whatever but a lot of people don't know what they
0:18:36 want to do you know they just kind of go get it a green what I think is you know important or a viable option where you can make decent money.
0:18:49 But I think more so that something that has kind of motivated me ever since getting on the fire department. I ended up meeting this guy right after I graduated at Recruit School who was like an admin chief and he was like, hey, congratulations for getting on the fire department.
0:19:14 But you'll never be rich. Like he just like, you know, he said that. And I was like, oh, that's true.
0:19:21 I mean, you're not going to get stupid rich off of, you know, fireman salary. But just that, like, like I remember that all the time.
0:19:33 And I just like, want to, like, I don't know, prove him wrong, but I think the same goes for people that like don't have a formal education, you know, they might, they probably want to prove other people wrong that like, you don't need that very kind of generic education, especially nowadays, like there's
0:19:57 so many different ways to make money. It's just like you just have to like find whatever it is that I guess plays to your strengths or interests you and that's where switching from Amazon to this, you know, I liked kind of sort of playing like the credit card game but I also liked sports betting.
0:20:22 I wasn't any good at it but I was usually just like drinking with friends and making stupid parlays. But anyways, it's nice to, it's actually fun to be involved in sports and have some skin in the game and not feel like you're being irresponsible.
0:20:51 makes sense for sure. Yeah, that's good. Okay. Cool. No, no, yeah, 100% right? I mean, you know, at the end of the day, you know, it is dependent on the skill and so forth.
0:21:08 And you made a comment earlier, you know, talking about, you know, what the fire chiefer, I think it was something that I could set to you about, you'll never be rich, you know, working here.
0:21:21 And ironically, we, in our, in our, in our mastermind that we have, we, we have our weekly calls every Wednesday and it was largely revolved around that concept.
0:21:33 I'm sure maybe you haven't seen it. There was a video that went viral between Tony Robbins and Alex from Ozzy, and that hit me hard because previous chapter of my life, I could completely resonate with Alex, you know, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, right?
0:21:56 And so, you know, Tony was coming from the perspective of, you know, be rich in a sense of spirit, be rich in a sense of fulfillment, be rich in a sense of, you know, fulfilling heart you know otherwise if you're just going after a month you're gonna be you know you're gonna be poor with a big bank account
0:22:14 right and and I'm of the belief that you've got to you've got to be rich rich in emotional fulfillment be rich in spirit rich in a way that you're happy not that things are not going wrong right we all that's just that's just life you know we're we're gonna have storm that's what prepares us for growth
0:22:34 I mean you've had your Fisher or storms which we're going to talk about here in a moment but we have to have those storms you know for whatever reason we have humans somehow of like oh storms are bad it's like broads that's part of it man so on to know of that man you are crushing it right now right
0:22:53 like I've been following your Facebook you know your stories and things you've been accomplishing you're smashing it but I want to go back to when you weren't you know and in fact in your guest profile you mentioned a moment where you got lost in a sauce and as I was reading through this man I can completely
0:23:16 resonate with what you're saying you know I think a lot of people listening and or watching right now can as well you know so talk me through this moment you know you weren't necessarily failing in business yet right but you said you were you felt that you're feeling as a man.
0:23:37 You know, you mentioned about a period where you had infidelity, you know, with your girlfriend, and that's a heavy admission, bro.
0:23:47 So, first off, you know, massive kudos to you for having the courage to come out here and be willing to talk about that.
0:23:55 And I can personally resonate with that. You know, there is a period in my life where my hands are off the wheel, you know.
0:24:02 I, you know, We can make a lot of excuses to why and so forth, but that's not the point. So take us to that moment, if you will.
0:24:12 Why, of all moments of your entire life, or any part of your life, why was that the wake-up call that forced you to look in a mirror, man?
0:24:25 So I feel like I had always looked at myself as like a good person, a good guy, hopefully like a halfway decent role model and whatever.
0:24:40 And I was kind of going down this path where, you know, I was just like kind of partying a lot and like and I think is on it like kind of the reason why I was kind of just getting off the rails a little bit was because I I felt like I wasn't really I wasn't working towards my like full potential you
0:25:04 know like I like I'd get off work and then I'd have 48 hours off like to do whatever you know And so I feel like I wasn't, I would at least like work out and go to the gym and whatever but then I'd play video games and party and that was like all I did, you know, I was still pretty young but I was getting
0:25:28 to that point and I was like now in my late 20s and I was like just kind of just getting sweeped off into that just let's have fun um and I still like to have fun but yeah obviously um but yeah so I ended up um I ended up cheating on my girlfriend and and it it's just like it felt like rock bottom I
0:26:02 felt so terrible about it you know it was just like the worst like pain and like you know I can only imagine the pain that she was going through but like just like the fact that I did it it just like hurt so bad and I was like I now like I need to, you know, take those right steps to be that man that
0:26:25 I thought that I was, but I wasn't following, you know, I wasn't taking the actions that that Ted that I thought I was, you know, would do.
0:26:37 And so, so I kind of just like, you know, I was like, all right, I got to be a better man and I got to find my purpose and like I got to like try to be the best TED that I can be.
0:26:52 And you know that's when I got introduced to Jim Cochrom and the Amazon community and it's like kind of something that I could like put that energy towards like building a better life and then also obviously treating my girlfriend better.
0:27:09 And you know we're engaged now and we're doing good. Congratulations man, thank you, but she let's the stash as well Right and she never liked it until until I had it apparently Yeah, so yeah, that was kind of a big turn point I can imagine man I appreciate you sharing that just give me a sense or you
0:27:43 know give us a sense How long was that was that relationship was that because I think that adds some context, right?
0:27:49 I mean was this a relationship of a couple of days weeks months years How long was that relationship? I'm sorry.
0:27:57 This was just a this was just a one-time thing that she's like kind of caught me and And, you know, I was pretty drunk, but that doesn't make it okay.
0:28:13 But it was just like, it was just a painful, like, it was just a bad, bad time, bad experience. And I felt like that was just all of my, the direction I was going is, that was just everything catching up.
0:28:28 I felt like in that moment, and it was like a, like a really hard to like look in the mirror and be like, what are you doing?
0:28:44 Yeah, I can understand that for sure. I mean, a lot of what you're saying, I think a lot of young men or a lot of men and women, right?
0:28:54 I mean, it's not exclusive to this man, but I think for us men too, especially if we're not, you know, if we didn't have the proper bring if we didn't have the proper programming by our own parents of what an ideal marriage should look like I know I didn't and it's not an excuse right I'm not you know
0:29:12 blame my dad or my mom I did the day it may not be my fault but it is my responsibility to change my actions right and um so you know going back to to the moment we And again, I love, you know, saying loss and a sauce because I'm sure a lot of us, especially us, dude, especially in our younger days,
0:29:34 when we don't have the environment of growth, right, especially in, you know, in the military, dude, I mean, there isn't a whole lot of inspiration of wanting to do better, other than just say, hey, wash out, you know, watch your six, you know, watch your brother next to you, right?
0:29:52 That was my thing. What you do in your off time, as long as you don't get arrested, you know, whatever, you just don't get caught essentially, right?
0:30:00 Yeah, but again, you mentioned, you know, this period of infidelity was a result of getting lost in the sauce. And I like to approach a little bit of specifics to this.
0:30:11 What were you actually chasing? If you recall, what were you actually chasing in that season? and that made you willing to burn your whole life when I say home life, that relationship, or that period, what made you willing to do that?
0:30:30 Hmm, I don't know. I mean, I think I was just lost and unsure. I was a little unsure about my relationship in the future, and maybe that made me a little more reckless.
0:30:48 but also like I didn't have that like growth like what you mentioned like I didn't have a journey or like something that was working on and now ever since I've had that like I feel like that's so important for like I guess I mean probably anyone's life but I feel like especially like young men's life
0:31:12 or or whatever is to always be like working on something, working on a better future and everything. It's like, I didn't really have that.
0:31:21 And so I was just kind of just, you know, partying and having fun. And I just kind of, I guess I sort of just slipped up and yeah, so I don't really know where I was trying to go.
0:31:39 Yeah. Yeah, it's just being, you know, just being reckless. Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of us can resonate that to some degree, you know, not really just having a path to follow, just reacting in a moment, right?
0:31:57 Whether it's, you know, a beautiful woman or it's gambling or it's drugs or alcohol or all the above, you know, you know, fortunately I've seen, you know, individuals go all the above, you know, not that was an ideal option not to test, but you know, that was the life chose, you know, so but you know
0:32:20 , thankfully, though, you learned, right, and you pivoted, and now, you know, again, outside looking at it, it seems like you've been on a major growth spurt, if you will, in a sense of changing direction pivoting.
0:32:35 So I really want to take a few moments and you're really down to that because I think that's, you know, really inspirational because a lot of people going through what you've gone through, right, you know, a period of where you're lost in the sauce, you have some mistakes made in your business journey
0:32:56 , in which I would love to hear more about here in a moment, but you give up, ma'am. You picked up your pants and you can't charge it forward.
0:33:07 So, that means said, so you fix the personal life, right? Just talk about this journey of entrepreneurship. You dive in entrepreneurship, you pick Amazon, which I would say ideally, which is a lot of ways, same to what you're doing now, right?
0:33:33 You're essentially, you know, you're finding the gaps in the market for where you could get in low and then, you know, sell high essentially, right?
0:33:42 So you're using the Amazon platform. You spent what you said three years grinding, talk us through this moment, you know, when Black Friday, 2024 comes, Amazon, Because you and I have been in a game, we can say some of these things just not really, you know, take advantage of that.
0:34:04 A lot of people don't know some of the language here. But, you know, Amazon essentially shuts off a lot of your listings.
0:34:09 They're like, eh, we don't think you're, we can trust you enough to sell these products. So, we're going to shut you off on a lot of inventory.
0:34:19 You've already bought and sent us, you know, sent to us for, you know, for you to make a money on, right?
0:34:23 So you send it to a prep center, they send it to, or you send it to a prep center, right?
0:34:31 And they throw away how much money? $15,000 of money, a proxy way. Walk us through the day you found out the 15 grand, like that's not, that's a lot of money, bro.
0:34:49 I mean, you know, $1,500 is a lot of money. You know, $500 is a lot of money. And by $15,000, dude, that's a lot of people's savings account.
0:35:00 They worked lifetimes, or I say lifetimes, but years, decades for. But you lost that in a day. You know, it was sitting in a dumpster.
0:35:11 Walk us through that moment, man, when you found out, like, what were you feeling? What were some of your reactions?
0:35:16 What were you thinking? I mean, you know, walk us through that moment, man, or that day. Yeah, it was like, so I didn't find out until, I mean, well, I found out that I was gated and, or, you know, I couldn't sell, like 80% of my inventory, like the Tuesday before Black Friday, which is like, you know
0:35:42 , that's one of the biggest weekends for Amazon sellers. Um, and so that was already, you know, a gut punch and then they had sent it all to, um, the return prep center that I had like recently stopped using and, um, but you got to change your return, your return address in like three different spots
0:36:06 on Amazon. And then, you know after that I was like well you know this out a whole lot I can do like I kept it in there for a while hoping that I could like get ungated so I could sell it again so I didn't just remove it right away and then I got totally caught up in you know Q4 December of last year
0:36:32 and the only thing that I could sell anymore was pretty much was was Lulu Limon and so I just hit the Lulu Limon bags.
0:36:40 Really hard to say this is from my daughter, please. It would never make it to Amazon, bro. Just like me and Oreos.
0:36:50 It would never make it to Amazon. Yeah. But yeah, like I mean, that was the only thing, like you've the only real like product brand or whatever that like had kind of had worked for me in the past that I wasn't restricted on anymore and so I really focused on that and and then you know the holidays and
0:37:13 basically I just like wasn't keeping track or you know I was expecting everything to be removed back to my house but then you know burnout after this after the December rush and then and then to the holidays I just assumed it was gonna show up and eventually it didn't show up like I was like, all right
0:37:38 , where the hell is this? Yeah, really. And then I finally reached out to the Return Prep Center and they're like, oh yeah, that was here.
0:37:49 And it was here for like three weeks and nobody claimed it. Even though they knew that it was my stuff but I just wasn't a client with them anymore.
0:38:00 And so they just threw away, donated it, whatever they did. And so, not only did I pay probably a couple thousand just to get it all removed from Amazon, then all of it gets just lost, destroyed, whatever.
0:38:20 So, it was, I felt like that's when I kind of just gained some a little bit of clarity that I was like, I can't do this anymore, like it's I don't want it was too much risk with how I Amazon just like you know they'll they can just control what you can sell and yeah so yeah exactly exactly so I kind
0:38:49 of right around that time decided I was like I don't think I can do this anymore and kind of just started liquidating stuff and then I found found the sports betting so make sense make sense for sure so this me spin on this for a second because you know you know with three you know I said almost three
0:39:12 grand with three years invested in 15 grand right why was that the moment you decided I think you gave a little hand but I really want to pull a bit more out of that because you alluded to it but why was that The moment you decided the roof is collapsing, right?
0:39:31 You know why Like why not fight for it, right? Because this is this is the point where a lot of juniors would just Either keep fighting and keep grinding and find ways to to root out, right?
0:39:44 But you decided to do something different. Why? So I had also I was also in a book club with two of the people from your small group, Ryan Small Rockwell and Matt Hasler.
0:40:07 And yeah, we read a book called Essentialism and one of the chapters was kind of talking about like, you know, every once in a while you got to kind of take a step back and like look at what you're doing and everything and really just look at it and just ask yourself like is this working?
0:40:34 Is this sustainable? Is this whatever? And because I think another thing that a lot of entrepreneurs do is they will just keep doing something that's not necessarily working and they might just get more debt or more whatever.
0:40:50 And that was something I did. I just kind of took a little break and just really tried to look at it.
0:40:58 Instead of just being caught up in the day-to-day, there's just a million things to do all the time. With that happening, the whole losing all that money, and just like, just the complexity of the Amazon FBA business.
0:41:17 Some people do it and they do it well and kudos to them. After all these experiences and just like the results that I was getting, it was just like, I don't see a sustainable future for me in this business anymore.
0:41:36 especially after not being able to sell all the brands that were the heart and soul of my business. But yeah, reading that book and really helped me decide that.
0:41:50 Yeah, I can understand that man, especially when if I remember correctly, you said 80%, right? If 80% of your customers were essentially yanked out from underneath you, that will cripple 80 business, right?
0:42:03 Not just the business on Amazon. If somebody came into my company and 80% of my customers, clients, and so forth walked away for whatever reason, bro, you and I have been having a different conversation, right?
0:42:19 That would hurt a lot of companies, potentially even making them collapse, right? So it's definitely interstandable. And I think any entrepreneur that's listening or any builder, founder can definitely appreciate the situation.
0:42:32 I'm able to assess emotions removed, right? Because a lot of times we get emotional about the situation. My God, you know, I spent three years of my life.
0:42:42 I've lost $15,000, right? We allow our emotions to get into the mix and we just don't know when to quit, right?
0:42:51 Because entrepreneurs hate quitting because we look at that as weakness, right? But instead, you looked through a different set of lands, I think you said this, but I know it's on your profile, you read this book essentialism, I think I said that correctly.
0:43:12 Anything more than two syllables I'm hoes, that's why I was with my last name, more two But you read this and you realize quitting was actually a strength, right?
0:43:25 So talk us through that point. How hard was it to kill your ego and admit that it wasn't necessarily business?
0:43:36 Entrepreneurship was a dream that was dead. But maybe just this business, this Amazon dream that was dead. How hard was that to kill that and admit that?
0:43:48 It was, it was hard because yeah, like you said, I don't want to feel like a quitter. You know, I'm like, I feel like I'm on this entrepreneurial journey, like, for a lifetime.
0:44:02 You know, it's like, it's, I enjoy the trying to build something, trying to make something work, learning, growing constantly, and that's what, I mean, I was honestly relieved, you know, I was like, this is just, it's not working, it's too much, and so I was relieved and I'm pretty sure at that point
0:44:29 I had already, like, learned about the, I don't know if I about the about the sports betting yet, but I just like I guess I was just confident that I would find something else, you know, I would find something and and then I just decided just to be grateful for the experience that I had and I know I
0:44:56 know a lot of people like like Hormosi you know they're like it's it was my like fifth or tenth business that I made that finally took off or whatever.
0:45:07 So it's like I learned so like pre Amazon and Ted versus post Amazon Ted were like completely different people because you know just like the good influences that I've met like the people and the networking and like all the self-help books and everything like all of that just like accumulates and you
0:45:31 turn into this different person that's going to be much better suited to be successful at the next thing yeah that's that's an excellent point that you just brought up there because you know a lot of people will look at that chapter as a failure right but if I'm understanding correctly you looked at
0:45:53 it as like no it's not a failure I'm just taking the lessons learned right? Lessons learn plus all the things I've curated, all the skills, all the people I've networked with, and I'm just going to carry that over into my next business life, right?
0:46:07 In my next season here, instead of starting fresh, right? With no contacts, no knowledge of business, no, you know, experience and business.
0:46:17 And, you know, especially with Amazon, I think that's a great, in my opinion a great platform to learn the basics of business, right?
0:46:28 With low risk, I see that with an asterisk, you know, but it is an excellent platform and there's a lot of business out there, right?
0:46:38 And to your point, there are there are no shortages of opportunities right now. There really is not, you know, with the involvement of internet now with AI and everything else, man, there is no shortage of opportunities only a shortage of people who will do the work you have to get after it right to
0:46:56 just chase those and that if I'm gonna stand cricket that's where you're like like I know I'm meant for this I know I meant for entrepreneurship this is my passion it's this matter of just finding the right thing if finding the right thing at the right time and just locking down right in my is that pretty
0:47:16 good summary of what I'm hearing? Absolutely. Awesome. So let's shift to this new business because I sense it and feel your passion about this.
0:47:29 And I'll start looking at I'm seeing some amazing numbers, right, and so I definitely want you to talk about this.
0:47:37 So let's get tactical for a moment. You shift it over to this sports, you know, an arbitrage, you know, to the average person, right, we're here in betting, you can like, you know, a lot of people are cringing right now, you know, because when to hear betting, they think gambling, right?
0:47:57 You know, I'm sure a lot of people are listening or watching, have lost a lot of money, right? And with that, they think a lot of this has to do with luck, right?
0:48:08 Your assistant's guy, like you're a protocol guy, you have to follow protocols in your nine to five, use loose leave, right?
0:48:16 In your nine to five, you have to follow protocol in this season, you know? So evidently, you don't rely on luck, right?
0:48:26 So just real quickly explain the system, how are you using the the mismatched odds, if I'm understand correctly, to guarantee, yeah, to use the word guarantee, but to, for, for lack of a saying, guarantee a win, you know, for, for somebody out there who's not familiar with this, break it down to like
0:48:45 , I'm a fifth grader, break it down for me. Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, I touched on it earlier, like, what the way people actually can guarantee themselves a little bit of profit is when the odds are in such a way that allows that and the software will tell you, hey, this is an opportunity, you
0:49:12 can bet on the Seahawks to win 1, you know, minus 120 odds, which means if you bet, what is it, the odds are, if you know anything about sports betting, then you know the minus number on the odds means means that they're the favorite, because you're getting less money, so minus 120 would be if you bet
0:49:49 $120, you would profit $100, whereas say it's an underdog, if it's plus 120, then if you bet $100 you would profit $120 if it won.
0:50:11 So that's kind of how odds work. And so say the plus number is higher than the negative number. So say it's plus 130 versus minus 120.
0:50:22 You're going to guarantee yourself a profit. If you bet both sides, you know, one on the Seahawks and one on the Patriots, you know.
0:50:32 But so like, so the software, odds gym, aggregates all these different sports books and all the different odds of all the different games that are happening and you can filter through and find specific sports leagues, different size bets, like like main market bets are your like money, money line, which
0:50:55 is just who's going to win your spread. who's going to, you know, the spread is, we don't do a whole lot with the spread most of the time, but it's not.
0:51:08 If someone's giving you, like, if one team is the under dollar by like three and a half, then they would be plus three and a half.
0:51:16 And so they have to win ultimately, they get three and a But with those three and a half points, they have to beat the other team.
0:51:28 That's kind of how the spread works. And then there's the total, that's the other main market bet. But anyways, it's just got all these really nice features, which where you can see the odds on all these different sports books, which allows you to find the arbitrage opportunities.
0:51:47 and then so what's kind of different about what what I do is we're more farming international sports book deposit bonuses because so say like I could get a hundred percent cash bonus on a deposit so say I you know deposit five hundred They'll give me five hundred dollars.
0:52:12 And so now I have a thousand dollars Five hundred dollars, which is not mine. I just got it for free from the sports book Now there are terms on a lot of these bonuses where you have to play through that bonus like ten times So I would have to play through like maybe like $5,000 or like $10,000 worth
0:52:37 of play, betting before I can withdraw any of that. So, but the loophole to that is, so say I've got that $1,000 and you know I'm betting on the Patriots because I think they're going to lose and they're the underdog for the Super But um and so then I would bet like maybe a hundred or like maybe 1200
0:53:07 or so uh to properly hedge the bet on the different site betting on the Seahawks. So if the Seahawks win uh then most of that thousand dollars just goes into that other sportsbook and and I have five hundred dollars I didn't have before and now I've lost out of that book and they'll and they'll offer
0:53:32 me another deposit bonus because I'm just losing and they want to keep taking my money. They'll give me money just to try to take it back.
0:53:43 Yeah right. And so that's that's essentially what I do with It's several different sportsbooks every day. So that's interesting, man.
0:53:55 I appreciate you sharing that. For the hours person out there right now, that's like listening and thinking through everything you just said, myself included, I hate to say, I'm not a sports guy.
0:54:10 I'm really not. I do follow certain major events, like the club called play awesome and yeah man Indiana freaking man what a killer year they had right yeah I'm not a I'm not a roll tide guy but you know I did live in Alabama for 13 years and you know I guess I'm you know roll tide kind of guy until
0:54:31 save it left you know but you know to the average person out there you know the steak and it's like man this could be rather interesting but I'm you and I have had this conversation, but you're like, bro, yeah, I don't do much research.
0:54:52 You know, right? But to the average listener, the average person, myself included, that sounds a blend of crazy and or blazy, right?
0:55:04 So defend that statement. I would love for you just to kind of reinforce why is research actually the enemy of your system?
0:55:13 I'd love to hear this. Yeah so yeah I mean you can do like you can listen to people on YouTube or whatever that they're called handicapers or capers those are people that are giving you their picks or why they think this person's this team's gonna win whatever giving you their lock of the day or whatever
0:55:35 and you know I do like listen to those people sometimes just to have a more well-rounded view of what's happening in these games, like who's injured, who's resting.
0:55:46 Because sometimes I now have enough sports knowledge where I'm like, oh, why are the odds like this? You know, it's something must be off.
0:55:56 And so I just want to like at least educate myself in that sometimes. But all of that stuff is baked into the odds.
0:56:04 So, you know, what the odds makers are putting out there, and then what all the people are betting on that makes, you know, the odds fluctuate and all you really need to know is who's the underdog, who's the favorite, which is the odds.
0:56:22 That's how the odds work. And so what is taught in like the coaching program that I took is how to just how to read the odds and to bet on the underdogs on the books that you're trying to lose out of.
0:56:36 So sometimes if you do think you're all like knowledgeable about sports, sometimes you don't end up following that and that can bite you in the ass because, you know, Like statistically, you know, the favorites will win like 60 to 70% of the time if the odds are like plus one 50 or more.
0:57:02 And that's the kind of game we're playing. We're playing a statistics type of game. Not a, oh, I got a hunch or, oh, I think I know what's going on.
0:57:13 And yeah, sometimes you do get lucky, but the system is really, really built for you to not lose, because even if you do lose, you don't really lose, because you've hedged all of your bets.
0:57:28 It's just the money might not be going in the direction you want it to, but yeah, so it can be advantageous to not know anything about sports.
0:57:40 Yeah, I know you've told that to me separately, you know, and I'm like, that's intriguing. So thanks for sharing it, man, because I know there are a lot of people out there that's listening or watch here and now they're like, man, this isn't intriguing.
0:57:52 I don't have to gamble away money to, you know, to a platform that can shut my, you know, 80% or 90% or, or, you know, 100% of my business, right?
0:58:04 Exactly. One thing you mentioned, you mentioned more than once, is you invested in coaching. And share your personal opinion if you will.
0:58:16 The reason why you elected to do coaching, instead of trying to do it all your own, right? Instead of going on YouTube and learning it and trying to err, what made you invest in the coaching?
0:58:27 Just curious. um I just uh once I really like made the decision that I like wanted to actually do this and do it right um you know I've invested in coaching before and you know it was a game changer for me to have that guidance like in Amazon um and there are a lot of nuances with different sports books
0:58:55 and things that you need to be aware of to avoid getting shut down or getting your bonuses cut off or whatever it limited.
0:59:06 These are all things that not only is it videos and coaching and guidance, but it's also the community that is in this coaching program together.
0:59:20 We have our own Facebook group that you know I can you can learn so much just from the other people in the program and you know stuff's always changing too like there could be changes where people will share those changes on the fly so you can be updated on things and I just I just knew it would be like
0:59:43 I was already kind of trying to do it by myself but with like as much free information as I could get from the guy who referred me to the program, shout out to Ed Newman.
0:59:57 It was also an Amazon guy, and you know, it's funny how that all works, everything happens the way it's supposed to.
1:00:06 I'm not a believer of that, so yeah, absolutely. So if I understand correctly, man, what I'm hearing correctly is, you've, you've You saw the value of compressing that timeline, right, compressing that timeline of like instead of taking a year or two years to see some wins or making money, you saw the
1:00:31 value of compressing that down to like maybe a month or two or three to start winning and making that investment back and then some, right?
1:00:39 Yeah, absolutely. I love that because oftentimes, you know, we look at investing in ourselves and I'm of the belief, I'm sure you would agree, especially, you know, with what you share on it on coaching and investing, investing yourself is the absolute most valuable investment you can place, right?
1:00:57 It's not the stock market. It's not, you know, you know, gold and, you know, it's investing in yourself, the skills and knowledge and compressing that timeline.
1:01:09 I love how you mentioned community, man. I'm of the belief, you know, in addition, you know, investing yourself as being surrounded by people who are on the same journey, who want to see you win, you're right, and to celebrate, encourage support because you know this as well as anybody else.
1:01:28 Entrepreneurship will beat your ass, right? And it will keep you down if you allow it. So having a good support system to cheer leader to cheer lead you into hardships or through hardships through the fires plum intended right because we're all gonna go through that so having a coach having a support
1:01:49 system to to push you through those fires man you gotta have that you know whether it's a business life wherever you know so I'm glad you brought that up because a lot of people are, you know, when it comes to coaching, well, I can do it myself on my own.
1:02:06 Cool. How's that worked out for you so far, right? And a lot of people are just not motivated enough to, to do it, you know, to, to take action on coaching.
1:02:18 And, and, and, and also to having the path forward, you know, you know, you know, the proven path to, to take, to execute, whereas you're just hoping and praying at this works because you're just relying on a lot of YouTube videos or chat GPT which hallucinates and you can't even guarantee that, so appreciate
1:02:42 you sharing that, man. Now, let's dive into something I alluded to earlier that you mentioned, there's the hidden value of this.
1:02:53 You mentioned using credit cards to build the bankroll, right? And, you know, when I say credit cards, a lot of people, you know, especially the D.
1:03:02 Ramsey fans are like, you know, the cringing, right? That scares people. That's bad debt, you know, at least to a lot of people.
1:03:11 And so, to which I would agree, right? However, you do this strategically, right? So, explain that for a moment. Explain this to the Dave, to to Dave Ramseyers, if that's the search term, right?
1:03:25 How you leverage this is such a way that you ensure that you don't end up in a situation with debt that you cannot pay.
1:03:35 Well, I mean, at least once I kind of learned this system, it definitely helps to have more money in the system.
1:03:48 So like, because say your bets don't go the right way and you have all of this money in the bonus books is what we call them.
1:04:01 Because those are the ones that we're trying to lose out of so that we can get more bonuses. Because if you win too much and then you withdraw, they'll probably cut you off on bonuses.
1:04:11 they're like, we're losing money on this guy, you know, kind of off. And then we've got our win into books.
1:04:19 And those are the books that we usually have to bet more on because they're the favorites. And so you get enough bets that don't go the right way.
1:04:28 You know, you have to keep putting money into the system. And, you know, you're not like losing the money because you're still hedging the bets.
1:04:37 Eventually you might just have to witch all from one of those books and you know that's fine then you then you've witch all a bunch of money and you're fine you might ruin the bonuses in that book but I just had a rep call me yesterday from one of those books that I like I'm like 20k net positive on
1:05:00 that book and they call me and offer me bonuses again. So it's like they'll come back because I don't know, I guess they believe that you're not going to be profitable forever because most people aren't.
1:05:16 But the more money that you can have to put into it, the more money you can the more bets you can keep making to either get through your rollovers, which is what you need to play through before you can withdraw or you know so you can just keep depositing and keep getting bonuses and keep hedging those
1:05:38 bets and so just the more money you have in it the better and so you can buy these so you can buy gift cards for these different domestic sports books and with a credit card which is you know money that you don't have right now.
1:05:58 Yeah. And then you have these gift cards that you can now put into the system. Sometimes you can just do a positive arbitrage bet and guarantee yourself a little bit of money and then you have that money in the system.
1:06:10 And and and that's great. Or you can do it so you can keep making your hedge bets and you know keep moving forward.
1:06:19 Whether it's, you know, getting, you know, they're having the bets go the right way for you. And you're losing out of those international books where you can keep getting bonuses, or, you know, you're at least being able to make more bets to get through your rollover so you can at least withdraw the
1:06:39 money that you might have stuck in an international book. So either way, it's a good thing and you can keep moving forward in this system and, you know, eventually if you do have to withdraw then boom, you've withdrawn, you know, probably like 5, 10, 15, $20,000 that you now have and you can then redeploy
1:07:05 that money or and or, you know, pay off your credit card bills. And then on top of that, you're getting points and miles and cashback, which is just another extreme.
1:07:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I was hoping you really are. Okay. Is the hidden benefit, right? Yeah. In the sense of, you know, the points and travel hacks and so forth, because like what a lot of people in the Amazon world would do is, man, they would rack up the, you know, cramped ton of points, you
1:07:35 know, you know, getting all these, you know, cards that leverage that, right? So, yeah, that's the other benefit to this is, man, you could rack up travel miles, points, and cashbacks, you know, and so there's the hidden reward there, too, you know?
1:07:52 So, I appreciate you sharing that. In this, in this, you know, in this season, in what you do, man, how important is it to keep yourself emotionally regulated?
1:08:06 You know, keeping yourself where you don't allow your emotions to dictate your decisions? How important is that? It's very, very important.
1:08:15 Whether it's just staying sane or it's, you know, making good decisions and continuing to trust the process and not trying to like chase losses or start doing un-hedged bets like rarely do I do bets that don't that aren't hedged so you know where if I lose I actually lose um but I there's there's something
1:08:47 I got introduced to recently um I don't I don't know if you've ever heard of Kabala um but it's it's like a it's it's actually like an ancient like Jewish like spiritual practice and I kind of got introduced to it recently and it's very spiritual and it's just it's just all about like you know the guy
1:09:14 always says be like the light and just like don't worry don't have like yet don't have like worries of doubt or lack or or whatever, you know, all these like kind of human emotions that kind of get in the way of us continuing to be the best version of ourselves or whatever, and so like, I'm always kind
1:09:41 of reminded of that, like, all right, these bets didn't go the right way, or like, oh, I'm very like, oh, why did they miss that or call this if I'm watching, you know?
1:09:50 and it's just like you know you just gotta like relax and realize this is just part of it you know you go on win streaks where you're like winning a lot and then you go on losing streaks and it's like and you got to dig yourself out of it a little bit but like you know that's obviously if we all could
1:10:11 get every bet right then you know we'd all be rich but that's exactly but don't you What you find that interesting though that that's that's impeccable to every area of our life right is you know There's there a season we're gonna get some winds and there are gonna be some seasons when you were a guess
1:10:29 of losses That's just part of life right You know I saw this round table before we wrap up in clothes.
1:10:37 I saw this round table as you're talking through this of a lot of celebrities Tom Hanks and a bunch of others were sitting around this table you're talking and I forget where it was going but the key one of the key things that Tom Hanks was talking about is you know it's like hey the season that you're
1:10:57 navigating right now the season where you're your ultimate lows and you think this is the rest of your life this season shall shall to pass right now in the height right that season two shall pass because a lot unfortunately a lot of people hang out in this in this season thinking and this is the rest
1:11:16 of their life. This is how life should be in this emotional state. It's like, no, no, no, no. This too shall pass, right?
1:11:24 Like we go through this season, these peaks of valleys, and that's just the human experience, right? And I love how you point it out, man, because we do need to keep our emotions in check.
1:11:39 Yes, can we express ourselves sure? We should, right? Yeah. And I'll share something with you that I found really insightful from Lila Hormozzi.
1:11:53 I love a lot of her, in fact a lot of her content, she shares all of them. Yeah, she's great.
1:11:57 She talks about resiliency, not in the sense of just keep moving forward, right? Just keep moving forward, just keep getting hit and moving forward, but she shares it in an emotional perspective, you know, how quick can you get to the equal state, right?
1:12:12 You get delivers some amazing news, celebrate cool. Let's get back to this equal status fastest possible You just got kicking a nuts All right, take a moment, you know, wallowing your tears whatever.
1:12:25 Let's get back to equal status fastest possible Right, so we can start thinking because as you I'm sure you can agree You need decisions we make here and or here are really ever good.
1:12:37 Maybe you didn't have you never, right? So, it's really critical to make sure we make these decisions in our equal state and get theirs as fast as possible, because as you notice in your other business through life, we're going to get kicked in the nuts.
1:12:58 And I liked what you said, you followed the process. There is a process that you follow. You don't watch the scoreboard.
1:13:05 you just follow the process, you know, and so I think we've got to stick to that lesson, you know, that if that's one lesson I can extract from this was you follow the process and that's something we need to apply in all areas of our life if we want to excel in something because we're gonna get kicked
1:13:24 in and nuts, we're gonna, you know, we're gonna have some amazing lands but we've got to get to the equal state you keep moving for, focus on the process, not on a scoreboard, would you agree with that?
1:13:35 Absolutely. Yeah. Awesome. All right, so we're gonna dive into what I call, that's kind of like a signature close if you will, what I call the after-action review.
1:13:47 It's just a couple of closing things because, you know, you shared the war stories, right? You've uncovered, or you've covered the war stories, you've shared some wounds and things you've been through, right?
1:14:00 So So as we, you know, rock this out, there is a question from a previous guest who, you know, in his situation, he's kind of like right in the messy middle.
1:14:14 And every guest, I'm going to inspire them with a, with a question of, hey, if you're hosting this session, what would be the question you would want to ask my desk guest, which I'll ask you here in a moment?
1:14:27 But my previous guess had this question for you when things got really deep for you You know, and you had a lot of fear right like I said you went through three years in Amazon And you lost 15,000 you had this period of Of doubt, you know in your personal life and in this Lawsonist if you will right?
1:14:51 But when things got really deep for you and you had a lot of fear the things that kept you up at night What made you ignore that and keep pushing forward?
1:15:05 I think a lot of it is just like, you know, I mean, I feel like there is no other option.
1:15:15 You know, like, you just, I mean, you gotta keep working on something. I mean, yeah, I keep working on yourself.
1:15:23 You gotta keep doing these just overall good habits because it's like, what is the other option? Just giving up, just settling, just not even trying, you know?
1:15:36 Like, I don't want to be on my death bed and be like, well, I never tried, you know? Yes. I never went for it, you know?
1:15:46 And now I feel like that way to eat me, eat at me at like an old age like being like what?
1:15:52 I just like played it safe and I never, you know, I never went all in on something. Yeah. That's spot on, man.
1:16:02 That's spot on. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that, man. So in the season, right, we all go through these different seasons in this current season.
1:16:13 What is your definition, especially as you're rebuilding in Wayne, right? What is your definition of grit right now? Like, what does grit mean for you?
1:16:27 And I think it's just always just continuing to focus on that, like, that ideal, like life And taking those steps, like no matter what it is, and doing it without fear, without, you know, fear of failure, without, I don't know, just like worry, without just doing it, doing it all from a good place.
1:17:01 um but doing it with like just doing it with with I guess you're all um and yeah just just just don't give up on your dreams like don't don't ever think that like this is the best that it's going to get for me, you know.
1:17:23 I agree. I agree. So yeah, I guess it's in like trying to figure it, I think that was something else I figured out with the essentialism thing is like what is it that you want to do or like leave behind or whatever.
1:17:42 And I was, from my own experience, I kind of looked at like Jim Cochrane that way when when I was lost, I was like, I kind of found a new path that was exciting for me and it like gave me hope and I started learning and it was just like, I was working towards something and I learned a lot of like principles
1:18:04 in that through like Jim Cochum and so he inspired me and like a lot of people inspire me that like you you're someone that has inspired me through like this, all of the people that you're helping, you know, you've been through all of your business journey and like, and now you're kind of like giving
1:18:25 back and helping people like find that same, like similar success and now that's that's something that I've that's become clear to me is that I want to inspire people to do more with their lives like find a better ideal and never and don't waiver from that, you know.
1:18:47 I love it. I always work towards it. And you know, you're going to figure out a lot of stuff about yourself and life and the process, and you're going to become a better person, whether you ultimately get there or not.
1:18:59 It's the journey, right? Exactly. Yeah. So it's the journey that oftentimes we find ourselves too much in the rush to get to the destination, right?
1:19:10 And really, just not even a destination. Success is not a destination, right but we're always such an rush that we fail to really I see enjoy but really to enjoy the journey to take the lessons that we learned good and bad right the relationships the things that did did not work out the mistakes we made
1:19:31 and the wins the losses like that's part of the journey and that's part of the process to get to that next level right you know you've got to learn to You know, if you just, you know, somebody gave you $1,000,000 in bank account By in the next couple days, you'd be, you know, chances are that money would
1:19:51 be gone, right, right? However, if you weren't towards that you learned how to curate $2,000,000 by investing and investing yourself, investing into vehicles that were produced at and all of this stuff that You know, you're going to be a better steward of that, right?
1:20:09 Better steward of your talent, your story everything you've been given. So, love that man. So, especially in this later season I'm in, we've always been talking about adding things, adding new systems, new plans, new processes, new habits, new something.
1:20:33 But let's go on the the opposite of the room. What is something that you're working towards to eliminate? It could be a belief, it could be a point of friction, it could be, you know, behavior, what is something you're actively trying to eliminate to stop doing?
1:20:51 Because a lot of people are working to add, right? But what is it that you are working to remove or to stop doing in the season of life?
1:21:04 a good question. I think that's kind of like one of my goals, like something that I've been doing decently well with with the sports betting is just like getting people to join it, just referring people to it and you know the program has a really good like affiliate system and so I'm building a decent
1:21:29 like passive income through that and I feel like that's kind of that is the kind of the goal through this you know I don't necessarily want to bet for like one to two sometimes three hours a day every day forever because you know I do got to find balance with all this stuff So like I guess that's something
1:21:55 that I'm kind of I'm sort of working on creating my own sort of coaching program with with the around the the bedding and and so that's kind of that all is kind of a way to eventually slow down on the bedding and just help other people do it and kind of you know free up a little bit more of my time so
1:22:27 yeah that's something that I'm trying to slowly remove but right now I need to show people like I can make money for a while doing this because that'll help you know the numbers kind of sell themselves.
1:22:46 Yeah, I agree. Once you get that tandal proof and get case studies and you know, because everybody wants to see proof and pudding which I can agree.
1:22:54 So cool, man. All right. So for all the teds out there, right, that are listened to you talk. They've been listened to you for probably an hour now that are fighting a similar fire, similar fires, right?
1:23:10 What do you say to that person that to keep them moving forward. Like if you're coaching them right now, that's navigating what you've already been navigating or currently navigating, what do you say to that person?
1:23:23 In the next 69 seconds, what do you say to that person to keep them moving forward? You know, don't quit, find a way, trust the process, you know, do what the training has told you, and just keep moving forward and stay level headed.
1:23:52 And yeah, like I said, trust, trust the process and, you know, there's, there's ups and downs. But, you know, you got no other option besides to keep going.
1:24:05 Yeah, right, exactly, exactly. Yeah, so if I'm just saying crackly, there is a, there is a brighter path forward, right?
1:24:16 There, there is another future for out there. or this season that they're navigating right now, while it may be in the thick, it may be, you know, not pleasant, but keep pushing forward because this season two shall pass, right?
1:24:29 This for you, you know, you can't push it forward because you believed, you had absolute conviction in your heart that this was meant for you, you just gotta keep pushing forward because, you know, like a sink, right?
1:24:42 We shed this skin of ours of our old past, Whether it's yesterday's past, it's last month's past, last week's, we shed that skin, right, so we can get to the next level of growth.
1:24:53 You know what I mean, that's awesome, man. So, as we wrap up, as we are building a chain of iron, right, because my last guess asks you a question.
1:25:08 So, what would be the one question that you will love the challenge the next guest with. Um, so I was kind of thinking of this as a question for me and I really didn't know how to answer it.
1:25:32 Um, and so, so I'm going to challenge the next person with it, but um, I feel like there's, a moment and like every entrepreneur's like childhood that like made them want to be you know successful or have their own thing and have them be the only thing that gets in their way kind of thing and then like
1:25:58 they can control their own like success and everything whatever all the stuff that entrepreneur is like about entrepreneurship, but like what was it in your, I guess it doesn't have to be your childhood, but what was it in your life that really like made you feel like there wasn't no other way, but this
1:26:20 , you know. I like that. I like that. That's a good question man. Thanks for sharing it. I can't reveal who the guest is but you'll find out, you know, if you Okay, so that's a good question, man.
1:26:36 That's a good thought provoking question. I get that's a deep one So thanks for sharing that man So Tim and I appreciate you getting real today, man because most people You will hide behind all this you know all the mistakes the the messy ones, right?
1:26:51 You know lose the money You know periods of things that we've done that we're not proud of like infidelity and and things that we've done, right?
1:27:02 You know, a lot of people will hide behind that, but you chose to put it out there. You chose to put it out there, and I respect that, man, because a lot of people can learn from this, because a lot of people tend to carry on, they carry that guilt, that shame, because of the things they've done, they
1:27:20 feel like they're disqualified from success, right? They're disqualified from this next version, they're disqualified from a good relationship, a good business.
1:27:31 I feel meaningful life, man, so you put it out there. I truly hope and pray that this inspires other people that, shit, you know, there's no difference.
1:27:44 They too can have the same happiness and joy that you're experiencing, right? So that being said, where can people find you?
1:27:52 Because I know people are going to be like, we're going to find out more about this sports betting. We're going to find out more about Ted's story so I can follow him.
1:28:00 Where can I find you, my man? So I put it on my little whiteboard here, even though it's backwards. It is.
1:28:11 Sneaky. On Instagram it's Ted underscore bets and then if you want to learn a little bit more about sports bedding.
1:28:22 I've got a website teddybets.com. You can find me on Facebook, Ted Harton. But yeah, I would love to hear, you know, if anyone listens to this or wants to, you know, if you were inspired especially because as I told you, I live for that shit.
1:28:41 I would love to hear it. But yeah, reach out and hi. I'd be happy to talk to you about anything and how we're all just people on this earth trying to figure it out and we can all live our best lives if we just forgive ourselves and go for it.
1:29:02 I love that. Yes, forgive ourselves. Yes. I hope everybody just heard what you just said right there. Forgive ourselves. Well awesome, my man.
1:29:12 Thanks for sharing your handle and the ways people could find you. I will link all that in the show notes.
1:29:20 So, Ted, thank you again for stepping into the arena today. God bless you and thank you so much. Thanks for having me on Carl.
1:29:27 You're the man. I appreciate the opportunity and we'll hopefully talk soon. We don't grow just by listening. We grow by doing.
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