Episode 038: Broke and Delusionally Optimistic Until It Worked with Austin Reed.
Episode Summary
Austin Reed was a full-time musician in Bali in early 2020, living paycheck to paycheck, composing, recording, doing whatever creative work came his way, when the world shut down and his Brazilian friend Mateos texted him from another country to say he had just been robbed at gunpoint. Laptop gone. Rent money gone. Everything gone. Austin did not offer sympathy. He sent two hundred dollars, told Mateos to pick up a cheap laptop on Facebook, and opened an Upwork profile. Five days later they had a seven hundred dollar WordPress job. They split the money. Then they took another. Then Mateos quit his job and the whole equation changed, because now if Austin messed something up, his best friend did not eat.
What followed was two years of broke in foreign countries, cancelled flights, a divorce, nine months without landing a single project after pivoting to Django, three couples sharing a four hundred and fifty dollar a month house in Ecuador, and a mother with a freezer full of lamb chops in Colorado who kept Austin alive between gigs. He never had a plan. He had a bias toward action and a refusal to accept that where he started had anything to do with where he was going.
Today Austin runs Horizon Development, a fifteen-person AI and software agency he has built while living across twenty-six countries. The team works with entrepreneurs and businesses to automate processes, enable AI to do real operational work rather than just chat, and build the kind of leverage that lets a small team punch far above its weight. He has a gym in his house, a personal trainer who comes to him, a wife he met while running from an Ecuadorian divorce, and a tattoo on each arm. One says focus, consistency, improvement in Japanese. The other says be so optimistic that you are delusional. He is still adding to the second one.
This episode is for anyone who thinks starting with nothing is a disadvantage. Austin built his first dollar with two hundred and a laptop in a global shutdown. The nothing was the point.
In This Episode, You'll Discover:
- How Austin went from full-time musician in Bali to tech agency founder in five days, the robbery that started it, the Upwork profile he optimized like a dropshipping product listing, and the seven hundred dollar WordPress site that launched everything
- What day to day survival actually looked like across Indonesia, Mexico, Colombia, Ecuador, and back again, living on nasi goreng at two dollars a plate, sending every project payment to Mateos before keeping anything for himself, and landing at his mom's farm with a freezer full of lamb
- The nine months in Ecuador without landing a single project after pivoting from WordPress to Django, what kept him going when most people would have called it, and why having nowhere to go back to was the system that forced him forward
- Why fear of failure hits differently when you have something to lose versus when you have nothing, and the honest admission that Austin has gone too far toward risk aversion now that he has built something real and is actively working to reverse it
- Why Austin ditched rigid minute-by-minute schedules entirely and operates with a daily goal and complete flexibility in when he hits it, and why that system produces more output for him than hyper-structured routines ever did
- The way Austin uses AI inside Horizon Development, not talking to ChatGPT and asking it to do things, but giving AI tools, superpowers, and specific jobs so it can do massive operational work that most teams of his size could not touch
- Why some of Austin's best ideas, partnerships, and opportunities have come not from working harder but from sitting in a cafe drinking coffee, and what he means when he says life is meant to be played like a video game with a focus on side quests
- What it meant to be responsible for another person for the first time when Mateos quit his job to go all in, and how that single shift in accountability matured Austin as a leader faster than any book or course ever could
Key Takeaways:
- Be So Optimistic You Are Delusional. This is not a motivational phrase for Austin. It is the operating system he tattooed on his arm. There were nine months without income in a foreign country. There were cancelled flights, a divorce, a friend who needed a fridge to keep food cold in a Brazilian summer. The only thing that kept him moving was a refusal to accept that the current situation was the final one. That refusal is delusional to most people. It is the whole game.
- When You Have Nothing to Lose, Use It. Austin built Horizon from two hundred dollars because he had absolutely nothing to lose. He could not afford to be afraid. He could not afford analysis paralysis. Now that he has built something real, the fear of losing it has made him more risk averse than he should be. He is working on reversing it. The lesson: the underdog mindset is a competitive advantage. Protect it as you scale.
- Burn the Option to Go Back. Austin had no engineering job to return to, no city to move back to, no safety net. He moved three thousand miles from any familiar option and put everything into making it work. When retreat is not available, forward is the only direction. He did not plan it this way. But he recognizes now that it was the system that worked.
- Responsibility for Someone Else Grows You Faster Than Anything. When Mateos quit his job to go all in on the business, Austin felt it land differently than anything before. Before that, a failure was inconvenient. After that, a failure meant his best friend did not eat. That accountability matured him as a leader faster than any course could. Find a responsibility bigger than yourself and grow into it.
- Daily Goal. Flexible Execution. Austin tried rigid schedules. He could do them for a day or two and then they collapsed. What works for him is knowing what today's goal is and trusting himself to get it done by the time his head hits the pillow, whether that happens at noon or eleven at night. Not every brain works the same. Figure out yours and stop apologizing for it.
- The Side Quests Are Where the Best Stuff Happens. Austin's best ideas, partnerships, and opportunities have not come from sprinting. They have come from sitting in a cafe with no agenda. The entrepreneurial pressure to always be optimizing kills the margin where insight actually lives. Build the gap into your schedule intentionally. The game rewards the side quests as much as the main quest.
- AI Is Not a Chat Tool. It Is an Operator. Horizon does not use AI to have conversations. They give it tools, context, and specific jobs. An AI with the right tools and the right instructions can do the work of people across multiple functions simultaneously. The gap between founders who understand this and those who do not is going to become one of the defining competitive advantages of the next decade.
- Grit Is Patience. Austin's definition is precise. Not hustle. Not grinding. The ability to make a decision, commit to it, and wait for a feedback loop that could take months or longer without abandoning the direction before the data arrives. Most people quit right before the feedback loop closes. They never find out they were right.
Timestamps:
- [00:00] Karl introduces Austin Reed: musician, digital nomad, twenty-six countries, Horizon Development founder, fifteen-person AI agency built from two hundred dollars and a laptop
- [03:00] Bali, full-time music, paycheck to paycheck, and the text from Brazil that changed everything
- [07:00] The robbery, the two hundred dollars, the Upwork profile optimized like a product listing, and the seven hundred dollar WordPress site that started it all
- [11:00] The weight of responsibility: when Mateos quit his job and Austin realized that if he messed up, his best friend did not eat
- [15:00] Karl's ad break: The Grit Code Exposed at https://gritcodeexposed.com
- [16:00] The survival season: Indonesia to Mexico, the cancelled flights, the divorce, the father who hung up and called back, landing at mom's farm with a freezer full of lamb
- [22:00] Colombia, Cartagena, the twenty K they stacked before the pivot, and moving to Ecuador to finish divorce paperwork
- [26:00] Six people in a four hundred and fifty dollar four-bedroom house in Quito: Mateos, Sarah, Lucas, Austin, Lisette, and the Muay Thai training that kept them sane
- [30:00] Nine months without a single project after pivoting to Django, what kept him going, and why having no option to go back was the system that forced him forward
- [35:00] Fear of failure then versus now: nothing to lose versus something worth protecting, and the active work Austin is doing to reverse the risk aversion that came with success
- [40:00] The daily consistency system: forget rigid minute-by-minute schedules, set the day's goal, execute whenever, and trust yourself to get it done
- [44:00] Karl's ad break: The Grit Code Exposed at https://gritcodeexposed.com
- [45:00] Life as a video game: side quests, disconnecting, the best ideas coming from cafes rather than sprints, and why hustle culture's one-size-fits-all message leaves out the most important part
- [51:00] What Horizon Development does and how AI is actually being used inside the agency, not as a chat tool but as an operator with tools, context, and a specific job
- [56:00] What Austin is most fired up about: tax planning, investment automation, and AI that goes through his genomic sequencing data
- [01:00:00] The sixty-second message to Austin five or ten years ago
- [01:02:00] Grit defined: patience, the ability to commit to a decision and wait for a feedback loop that could take months without abandoning the direction
- [01:03:00] The directive: be so optimistic you are delusional, tattooed on his arm and still being added to
- [01:05:00] Joshua Lee's question from Episode 35: what is stopping you from doing the thing you have always wanted to do?
- [01:07:00] Austin's answer: visa situations and the time-bound residency requirement keeping him from tactical arms training
- [01:08:00] Austin's question for the next guest: if you had to restart from zero tomorrow, what system would you put in place to guarantee success?
- [01:10:00] Where to find Austin and Karl's close
Resources & Links:
- Reference: Zoominfo (referenced as the cold outreach tool Austin tried and found totally foreign coming from inbound marketing)
- Challenge: The Grit Code Exposed at https://gritcodeexposed.com
Connect with Austin Reed:
- Website: https://horizon.dev
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/automationsexpert/
- X (Twitter): https://x.com/HorizonDev20351
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@horizonsoftwaredev
Connect with Karl Jacobi:
- Website: https://successwithkarl.com
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karljacobi
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/karl.jacobi
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/successwithkarl
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarlJacobi
- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@successwithkarlj
Creators and Guests
Host
Karl Jacobi
Host of The Grit Factor Podcast, Resilience & Performance Coach, Founder, Entrepreneur, Combat Veteran
