The Grit Factor Podcast w/ Karl Jacobi

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Average is the enemy of greatness. Comfort is the enemy of growth. Welcome to the Grit Factor podcast,

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where we strip away the highlight reel and get into the darkness beneath it. The real stories, the real battles and the battle plans used to conquer them.

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I'm your host, Carl Jacoby. Combat that. Entrepreneur, resilience and performance coach, keynote speaker. Husband and father. I built, scaled, and exited multiple companies totaling over 40 million in revenue.

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But here's what that highlight reel doesn't show you. Life has been smacking me in the face with a two by four since I was just five years old.

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Broken home. Constant chaos. No playbook, no safety net. Just grit. And if you're anything like me, you know you've got another level in you, in your business, your career, your faith, your leadership. You're just not sure how to get there. That's exactly why we're here. Be sure to follow me for more great content and check out my website.

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Success with coral.com. Now that's car with a K. Now let's get to work.

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Brennan. Welcome to the show, my man. It is an honor to have you. Thank you so much.

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Yeah. Awesome, man. Brennan. Let's cut to the chase, man, shall we?

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I want to set the stage for all those that are listening or watching you right now,

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looking at your guest intake in your profile, and even in the short period of time that I've known you for a short period, you know, a little over a year now.

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You spent 15 years in fire service.

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Started at 19, which I can somewhat, you know, resonate with because I entered the military at 19.

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And you really started when, you know, a lot of people were coined that as the golden handcuffs, right?

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However, while you're at the fire department, you began a journey in entrepreneurship and real estate from, you know, a lot of people would call successful,

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you know, making great money.

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And you really were starting to feel alive, right? For most people,

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you know, that pension, you know, is the holy grail, right? Is that golden handcuffs? A lot of people get tied to,

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you know, in is the ultimate safety net, right. But you walked away from it. So

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give us a breakdown. You know, what was the specific math or that moment?

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Walk us to that moment, if you will, where you realized the safety net was actually a trap.

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don't carry guns as firemen. So,

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got involved with the volunteer fire department again, got hired on at about 19. And then I kind of was there for a while.

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And it was a great career. You know, I mean, I loved, loved everything about it.

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And, you know, as every fireman has, we all have some other type of second job because we have the schedules to have that, you know, we some departments are 24 hours on, 72 hours off. I mean, there's all kinds of schedules, you know. We work 2448.

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So most guys

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their second jobs was other manual labor jobs. For me, for the longest time, my second job was working a private ambulance company.

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So you work 24 hour shifts with the firehouse. You'd get off shift, jump on a private ambulance company doing inner facility transports,

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doing transports across the East Coast. I mean, I, I, I did a round trip from from Myrtle Beach to Penn state. 26 hours round trip in an ambulance

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Oh that's brutal.

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Then I broke my foot. And that's when everything changed. When I broke my foot, because I. It really came to a realization to myself. Was, I need to find something else. If I get hurt. If I got hurt worse. I needed to find something else where I wasn't relying on what I was doing. My dad being in real estate since we moved here,

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Let me give this a shot. Let me get my real estate license and have him train me and just see where it goes. And you know, I fell in love with it. So it was it was it was right around 2016 when I got licensed as a realtor. And then that's kind of what took me to where I'm at today.

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You know, even I was still even when I was let as a realtor, I was still working both jobs. Fireman doing real estate. And then we started. Then we started having having our children. And that's where that's where things changed. That's where my heart changed with the job.

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Found myself in just a lot of situations where I would question myself.

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Hey, if I don't come home tomorrow, if I get seriously injured.

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Was it worth it? Am I at the start of being no, it wasn't worth it. So I knew for me at that point, hey, I'm not afraid. At that point, I can be a liability. Like I'm out. Like, I fell out of love for the job.

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I didn't feel like some of the things I was doing. And the risk I was in was no longer worth the reward for me.

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And I had this whole other second career to lean on.

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And that's really what I did. You know, I was there for about 15 years. We have a program here where we can actually buy years of service.

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So we had a 20. We have a 25 year pension. And the department hooked us up with a little separate account.

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That the money goes into. And I had used that money to actually purchase, about four years of service. So when I left the fire department, I only had five years left to retire. Would've been 40.

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I'm 30. I'll be 37 in April. So I'd have been 40 years old collecting a 50% pension. What happened? Health benefits would have had. You know, like I said, you know, you know, the things the the the the handcuffs, right? The golden handcuffs. Like he had mentioned. But man, that none of it was worth it to me anymore.

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None of it was. And that's where I was just like, I'm going to bet on myself. You know, it's not like I was just some first year realtor, and I had a great year. Like I had a track record I started in 2016. Each year I grew my business. And, you know, it was about three years ago when I left.

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So it was a it made that transition very easy because I knew what I was. I wasn't I wasn't starting necessarily something new. I was continuing something that was already growing.

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And man, just, the, the piece that was like that I experienced when I left the fire department, I mean, it was just unbelievable.

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Yeah. I can imagine.

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Yeah I, I can imagine to be you know I, I can relate to that in the sense of

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not just so much the peace but also

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sense of freedom being liberated, you know, from an environment that,

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you no longer enjoy, that you no longer felt joy in. Right.

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And so,

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one thing I want to kind of go back to that you mentioned that I really want to highlight is there is a

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season change occurred in your life, right?

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And you had the realization that and if you got hurt, if something happened to you in a job that well, I mean, it's hit you. You run into burning buildings, right? I mean, I had a previous guests, you know, also, you know,

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he is still to this day a firefighter, you know, so we're talking about grave risks that are associated with this.

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And,

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you know, it's not like, you know, going to a typical 9 to 5 job either a,

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you know, a corporate life or whatever. You're you're running into danger where a lot of people or running out of. Right. And so that does bring a sort of circumstances, a set of fears, a set of,

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yeah, just fear, especially when you've got people who are counting on you, people not only just that you're saving, but people back home that you're saving right?

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Your wife and kids and so forth. So that is a great perspective that you had or, you know, moment you had like, you know, man, it was a broken foot, the castle, that wasn't like it was, you know, where you were at a hospital for an extended period of time or something that was life threatening,

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which, you know, often actually was what triggers that?

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Right. It's a life altering moment where they lost, you know, they they saw their life flashed behind before their eyes. You was just I say, Jess,

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I'm not downplaying, but, you know, it was, you know, a, you know, a dam or a brook. What? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. You know, so, you know, walk us through the moment, if you will.

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You know, leaving the firehouse, you didn't just leave a job, right? There was a lot with that. You left.

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You know, you were there for

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15 years,

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what I heard. But,

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you left a brotherhood. You left a lot of relationships. You you left and and a environment that you that all you knew since 19.

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Right. I mean, so for in a lot of ways, you spent life maturing there. You developed a lifelong relationships or long relationships, you know. So let's talk about the identity shift that you had to make. Who were you

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after you in in in your batch. Right.

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Let's dive in. In that first, second.

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You you know what pushes people? You know, their buttons. You know everything about them. You know what I mean? And there's, you know, I had a close group of guys that I mean, all of them were better relationships.

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Close relationships that I had with my own brother. You

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Yeah.

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because going through the stuff that we go through and then again, just living, living together every third day, seeing each other, you know, and hanging out and days off and things like that, you know, you grow and you kind of mature together, go through life.

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And that, you know, when I did leave, I think for, you know, for a little while, you know, still still made contact with, with some of those guys.

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But I still to to today.

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But I'll tell you, man, this whole thing really goes into like this, this other season that I'm at in my life now is is my walk with Christ. And my faith is

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I didn't realize. And this, this I probably only realized this within the past six months. I didn't realize how I had to get away from some of the relationships and the inner circle.

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I wasn't around because when I stepped outside of that and I look back, I'm like, Holy shit, man. Like,

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so

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Yeah I can.

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things you do and you know, you, you're around sin and normalizes sin. And it just looking back, it was like, wow,

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Yeah.

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and that's the thing too. I didn't tell my wife is like, not even leaving the fire department for continuing career, but I needed to get out of there to continue my, my, my walk with Christ and my faith and work on my faith and grow that to get away from the from the inner circle that I had and rebuilding a new one, which is really a work in progress now,

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and things that are developing now. And so,

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it was a transition, big time. And I and I think, you know, within the past 12 months, I have been even at more peace with, you know, some of the guys, like I said, some of them I do continue to talk to others I don't.

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And it says it is that whole two different paths and, you know, surround yourself by the right people to, to lift you up rather

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agree wholeheartedly man. And I think it's great that you have that realization that inventory check early on in your life. Because unfortunately

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if it ever occurs in individuals it don't come until much later in life. Right.

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So let's harp more on this identity trap because, you know, we've we've kind of hinted at a few times you've identified this trap, this identity trap, but identifying and escaping it are two different things.

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I'm sure you can agree. Right.

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One thing I want to, to really nail down or, you know, to shed light on, as you mentioned, your you're on your profile

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that,

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there was a season, you know, as you mentioned earlier, that you're juggling two, you know, two full, two full time jobs, multiple things. Right. You're also raising two boys.

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You're burning the candle at both ends. So take us to the basement, if you will.

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You know, take us to a specific night. Or maybe it was at 2 a.m., or maybe it was, you know,

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an argument with your wife where you realize, man,

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failing my family by working this hard or going down this path. Right?

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Take us to that moment, man.

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Yeah. I would say, you know, leading up to the month, I even months, a couple of years because, you know, when I, when I left the fire department to the, to the outside, it would have seemed like a very quick and rash decision.

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But on

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the inside it was I mean, this was the way I was feeling for the better part of 2 or 3 years, you know, like, man, what am I doing here?

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And just back and forth, like, should I leave here and not leave? I only got five years left to retirement and then again, just being in situations. And it's not just fire as as a fireman, you know, it's it's car wrecks being on the side of a road and getting smoked by somebody just barreling down the highway. I mean, that happens all the time.

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That happens more than an injury in a fire. And just all these different things, all these different risks. And like I said, the building up year after year at me, my mind going back, man, what if what if something did happen. Like I have, you know, very specific moments of that and and then like I said this this goes back to that.

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It wasn't it wasn't worth it. And so it got to the point of a couple of years of that, having that mindset of, wow, kind of being checked out almost, and then making that decision to, to leave,

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you know, I mean, and it was like I said to some, it seemed like a quick rash decision. But it was it was a long time coming.

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Yeah.

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and I and I think,

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yeah, I to say this specific event, you know, I leading up to there, like I said, it's just it's just a combination of different things over the course of a couple of years that kind of led up to it.

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that's a great

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insight because

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it wasn't like it was a spur of the moment thing. Right. This has been stewing inside you for quite some time. Yeah. And

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thanks for sharing. You know in a sense of like the other avenues or what it's like to be a firefighter because oftentimes that's what we think of, right, as running to burning buildings.

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But to your point, you're 100% correct. I mean, here in South Florida, we see fire department all the time responding to, you know, car accidents. And so for that nature and you're right, man,

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you know, either you're going there to rescue somebody and not, you know, even thinking twice about somebody behind you that could be, you know, just got mal intent to hurt to harm you.

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Right? Especially in today's times, in today's culture,

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you know, not to get political or anything, but, you know, we're in a shift right now where, you know, first responder jobs, man, they're they're they're at risk. And I think they're probably one of the most but one of the most thankless jobs there is because you put your life on the line for people that probably don't respect you, you probably don't care about you, you know?

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So van,

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then picking from that direction, you know, where you really have is some realization, some gut check. Like, you know what?

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you correct me, if I'm wrong from, you know, for for everybody is listening out to you're like, man, I it is time to now to shift focus to my family and focus on, you know, the deeper meaning of my life.

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Right. You had this realization, like, what am I called to do? What is this walk with Christ that you were talking about? What does that look like in your life? Right. So,

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you know, let's let's jam into this burn out more because I think a lot of people right now, especially in today's times, and I can relate to a lot to this burnout phase,

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because I experience it multiple times throughout my life.

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Right. And, you know, you listed this is one of your biggest challenges is, is burnout. So

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what were the physical symptoms of any, you know, or some of the symptoms that you're experiencing that or that burnout? Or is this fine? Like I've had enough, you know, was it you didn't tell me,

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did you lose your temper or do you find yourself a lot more like just on edge?

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How did that actually show up in your house, in your life?

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Yeah a lot of what you mentioned there I mean sleeping being at the top of the list.

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Because even though we work 24 hours and we supposedly sleep at a fire station, it's not always the case. You know some, some firehouses that are slower. Man I would sleep better there than I sleep at home. I mean, I sleep like a baby.

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Other firehouse is you're up all night long, you know, just grind and run and call after call after cause because we here in Myrtle Beach, we're we're a tourist area, you know, so, you know, they keep us going all night long.

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So, yeah, I mean, you know, you come off a 24 hour shift, and if you're working that second job, well, guess what?

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You're not going back to bed. You're going work your other shift, you know, at

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Yeah.

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So, you know, just dealing with lack of sleep, that whole sleep cycle, just really the sleep deprived,

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100%, man. I mean,

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short. Short with my wife, even with the kid, you know, short with the kids and angry.

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And it's just like, what am I

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Yeah,

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know what I mean?

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And that's what has gotten a lot better. And to add to, you know, like the the day that I made the decision to to leave the fire department, I didn't tell any of the close people around me as far as at work.

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Like my family do and stuff.

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But I didn't tell anybody at work, didn't talk to my, you know, my chief didn't talk to anybody because I knew that they were going to try to talk me out of it. And

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Yep.

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I wanted to do something that I felt was necessary. Even my own father, he didn't really approve of this at the beginning. And I was like, dad, this really isn't your decision, man.

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You know what I mean? Like, this isn't your decision. Like, I don't I don't need to make you happy here, whether you like this or not. Like I have to make this decision for myself and my family and, you know, and that he, you know, and then he, you know, he understood that, you know, he definitely understood that.

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But it is always like for a lot of my life, I would seek approval. And it's just like, you know, I don't need to see shit, you know? I don't need anybody's approval. I approve of it. My wife supports me of it. Game on. Like I'm good. That's all I need. And that that is how that is how I have been living my life set since that moment.

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Great.

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Thank you. Yes

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I wholeheartedly agree. Right. And I hope everybody is watching or listening right now really understands the, you know the shift that this occurred right here because I think a lot of people can resonate with you and don't want to admit it. Unfortunately, that we oftentimes seek validation when we want to go do something.

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When we don't get that approval, we're like, yeah, we change course. Even know inside. Like you, you said for years you felt this shift, right?

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You felt this. Yeah. You felt this movement. You felt this burnout phase occurring for a long time, you know? And fortunately for you, you did not allow anybody's disagreement

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to,

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to shift direction.

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Right. But

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unfortunately, too many people that are listening right now,

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are still allowing other people's approvals to, you know, impact their, their steps, you know, and one of the things I've had come a realization to, and I'm sure you can agree, is,

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you know, visions are not planted in our minds for other people's approval, like it is not in their capacity to see our vision.

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Right? They can't see it. They can't see our purpose. So naturally they are going to be in disagreement. They are not going to approve of that, right. They can't see what's in your mind.

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They can't see what's in mind. They can't see our purpose or our our hopes, dreams and aspirations. The visions that God has a plan in our minds.

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Right? So of course. Right. So stop asking for people's approval. Right. If it's there and go jump right

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Unknown
in. Yeah, that's what I'm hearing you say. So I love that you said comfortable bed.

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Unknown
Right.

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Unknown
let's kind of,

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Unknown
transition in this comfort stage because

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Unknown
there are a lot of people right now there, there are in this

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Unknown
golden handcuffs, but handcuffs of comfort, right.

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Unknown
mentioned the comfort was holding you back as a provider. And I think a lot of people can resonate with that statement.

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Unknown
But that's also sounds like a contradiction. You know, usually a steady paycheck makes you a better provider. Explain that logic. How is the steady paycheck hurting your ability to lead your family?

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Unknown
Yeah. I mean, it's just there is just like a, like a safety net, you know, it's what you would think is what you would like almost word it to yourself, like, oh, well, at least I always have that to fall back on. And you know, if this

00:23:17:04 - 00:23:26:14
Unknown
And, you know, I, I saw a quote and I don't know who you may have heard this to. I don't know where it's from, but I saw it but it and I hope I don't butcher it, but it goes something like

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Unknown
my worst case scenario is going back and doing what majority of people do, working your 9 to 5.

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Unknown
Like, that's my worst case scenario,

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Unknown
and I hope I said that in the right way, but but

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Unknown
that that's that is so much of what I always say. It's like, what's so bad if if this doesn't work out and you don't bet on yourself, you know, the worst case as well.

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Unknown
agree

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Unknown
I think the other side of this, too. If I'm hearing you correctly. Is that by bet on yourself, it's for you to grow, right? It's forth. You, you know, your backs against a wall right there. There is no,

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Unknown
know, guarantee, which is also the guarantee in the fact that you're going to show up right.

00:24:14:11 - 00:24:22:12
Unknown
You know, this is where the safety is. This is where the security is, is in yourself to go out there. And unfortunately, a

00:24:22:14 - 00:24:26:03
Unknown
lot of people don't have self-belief.

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Unknown
Right?

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Unknown
A lot of people don't have enough self-confidence.

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Unknown
So what do you say to that person

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Unknown
who,

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you know, is sitting here listening right now? I'm like, granted, this all sounds nice and amazing to go out there and leave something, you know?

00:24:42:05 - 00:24:59:11
Unknown
But what would you say to that person that they're sitting here listening to right now in this, you know, analysis paralysis that doesn't want to leave that comfort job, but they feel that that stir within that they need to go do something. They there's a vision planted. Right. But there's that fear.

00:24:59:15 - 00:25:05:10
Unknown
You've got to take that first step. And it's not an easy one, you know what I mean? I'd be lying if I told you it was easy

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Unknown
because it's not. You know, you've got to take that.

00:25:08:09 - 00:25:14:00
Unknown
You have to take that action to get the life that you want. Otherwise it's never going to happen,

00:25:14:02 - 00:25:14:17
Unknown
agree

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Unknown
I agree.

00:25:15:15 - 00:25:22:16
Unknown
you've got to muster up enough strength to step out of that comfort zone, to grow, and

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Unknown
to hopefully give you the life that you want for yourself and your family.

00:25:25:15 - 00:25:30:09
Unknown
I agree wholeheartedly man is just all about taking that first action.

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Unknown
You know, and I'm reminded of a of a, of a phrase. I was talking to some at church, you know, about a year ago, in fact,

00:25:37:02 - 00:25:44:03
Unknown
about a similar circumstance, you know, use I call you've got you you have a perspective issue and I'm like, wait, what?

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Unknown
You said you have a perspective issue. And I shared this in the past before a couple times. But always enemies. There's two different perspectives. There's the spotlight perspective and there's the foot lamp perspective. The spotlight perspective is or the lamp perspective is what a lot of people have today. You know, they have this perceived security, this perceived safety.

00:26:04:00 - 00:26:17:23
Unknown
They think they know where exactly or they're going, and they're just in that reactive constant loop. Right. You know, wake up, go to work, go home, blah, blah, blah. Or if you're working in a business, constant reactive, right. And you get into this

00:26:17:23 - 00:26:18:23
Unknown
constant of,

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Unknown
complacency. You all right? But

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Unknown
you have this perceive path.

00:26:22:01 - 00:26:25:08
Unknown
You can see 100 miles out. You know, exactly where you going. Right?

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Unknown
Well, there in the there's the other side of the coin where, you know, you're being called to a very specific mission. You're being called for a very specific purpose. However, it requires you to take out a step of faith, right? However, God has this way of not revealing that next step until he knows that you take that first initial step right?

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Unknown
So that the foot lamp you only see one step at a time. It really allow. It really forces you to to this. Take one step and the next step. It may be you have to shift course, right? But that doesn't mean failure. It just means that you have to, you know, pivot a little bit, right?

00:27:05:20 - 00:27:08:03
Unknown
But so

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Unknown
speaking

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Unknown
pivot,

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Unknown
the ha realization you had, you know, most people would hit that and crumble right

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Unknown
realization realizations.

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Unknown
It has. So however you use that to pivot into,

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Unknown
you know, in a season of life, you, you're in right? You use this to transition.

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Unknown
And I, I love that you highlighted this, taught you to trust God. But on this show, you know, we I'm of the belief that

00:27:32:09 - 00:27:37:23
Unknown
trust requires movement, right? One step at a time, one foot at a time.

00:27:38:01 - 00:27:40:15
Unknown
You can't steer parked car, right?

00:27:40:17 - 00:27:53:19
Unknown
So walk us through that moment after you prayed about leaving the department. You know, what was that terrifying. That first terrifying practical action that you took to cut the safety line?

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Unknown
Yeah. You know and here's kind of the, the interesting part too is when I left the fire department,

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Unknown
my faith was not what it was what it is today.

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Unknown
I didn't really start working on my faith and getting my faith right

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Unknown
until about a year, year and a half out of the fire department. Because even that, that first year when I left,

00:28:16:06 - 00:28:22:07
Unknown
know, it was very, like I said, just the freedom, the peace, all of that was great.

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Unknown
But I'd be lying if I wasn't a roller coaster, man. I have ups and downs, ups and downs, doubts if it's going to work. What if this doesn't work?

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Unknown
this nonsense

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Unknown
In your mind?

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Unknown
clouding everything,

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Unknown
Even even that first year out of the fire department was one of my best years, income wise for real estate. So it wasn't even anything financial related.

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Unknown
It was me in my own head and,

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Unknown
and

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Unknown
Love it.

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Unknown
work, worked on my faith and like, you know, still am, you know, doing that. But,

00:29:00:06 - 00:29:04:21
Unknown
it was that first year. It was it was rough. It was a roller coaster.

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Unknown
If I heard you correctly,

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Unknown
you didn't miss coming into an into that next season. Not having a worry. Not have any not no self doubts or any of that. Right.

00:29:15:09 - 00:29:27:18
Unknown
You did have all the self doubts. You you had the, the voices in your mind telling you or reminding you of how you're potentially you're not qualified for this next season.

00:29:27:20 - 00:29:29:02
Unknown
I understand that correctly.

00:29:29:07 - 00:29:33:15
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, really, I can't, you know, like, I rip the Band-Aid off, you know what I mean? I had worked,

00:29:33:16 - 00:29:34:07
Unknown
Oh.

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Unknown
I had worked my last shift, which was the Sunday on Wednesday I called the chief and I told him I'm done. He goes, well, what do you want your last day to be? I said, chief, I worked Sunday.

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Unknown
That was my last day. I was like, I ain't coming

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Unknown
Band-Aid off completely. And then the month after then was like a honeymoon period.

00:30:01:10 - 00:30:05:00
Unknown
Oh, yeah.

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Unknown
Yeah.

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Unknown
was it was it was it was the it was the month of October when I left and I'd stay around January, February.

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Unknown
was like, all right, this is real. You

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Unknown
I left, it was it was October. We had Thanksgiving and Christmas, you know,

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Unknown
And.

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Unknown
things like that. And like I said, it was just in that honeymoon period and then that and then January, it was like, whoof!

00:30:31:20 - 00:30:34:07
Unknown
All right, I guess it's just me.

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Unknown
The reality hit.

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Unknown
so, so and that and then that first built into, you know, where I'm, where I'm at today.

00:30:41:08 - 00:30:47:19
Unknown
I'm glad you mentioned this honeymoon phase, because that and if you don't know, referring to,

00:30:47:19 - 00:31:03:00
Unknown
guys, you know, this honeymoon phase is you look at any new relationship with your girlfriend, or, you know, when you meet this amazing new person or whatever, or this partnership. This is the this is that phase where everything is amazing right now, right?

00:31:03:04 - 00:31:28:16
Unknown
You know, everything is amazing. Nothing can go wrong. Everybody's hopes are high. But then reality hit right, right after. And of all times, two is after Christmas after, you know, everybody's emotions were already high because you're coming up from the holidays, you know, you're grateful for, be around your family and and so forth, and bam, January hit, you know, and now reality setting.

00:31:28:16 - 00:31:47:18
Unknown
I'm like, oh man, I gotta get to work. I because it is all of me, you know. So there was that shift, you know, of energy, that shift of perspective, that shift of how you show up like, wait a minute. All right, I have to get to work because there is no sense of it. There is no such thing as vacation, at least in this age.

00:31:47:20 - 00:31:50:20
Unknown
Right? You know, but,

00:31:50:23 - 00:31:52:17
Unknown
made the jump, man. And

00:31:52:19 - 00:31:59:21
Unknown
I'm of the belief that grit isn't about jumping, right? It's about how you land and how you build,

00:32:00:02 - 00:32:12:02
Unknown
you learn the hard way that you needed boundaries. And this is something I've really been laser focused in at least in my own personal development. Is boundaries.

00:32:12:04 - 00:32:14:05
Unknown
Right. And I've been reading this book.

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Unknown
I've even put it into our group, boundaries by Doctor Henry Cloud. I think it's his name. If I put your name on it, I apologize, but it's the book boundaries. Look it up on Amazon. But it probably been one of the most impactful books that I've read. And I love how you you spell that out.

00:32:31:21 - 00:32:35:16
Unknown
There's that you really needed to implement boundaries in your own life.

00:32:35:21 - 00:32:52:07
Unknown
So as a, you know, especially as a fellow father, as a husband and an entrepreneur and so forth, the listener needs to know, you know, how how that translate to them. So for you, what were some of the boundaries that you really had to install in your life?

00:32:52:07 - 00:33:14:05
Unknown
Maybe it was a calendar, right? So if that's the case, you know, how is that calendar look today for brand and versus maybe five years ago, you know how is that calendar look two different? How is that look different for you today?

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Unknown
You know, for me, being on a definitely like a phone based business,

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Unknown
know, boundaries that, hey, put

00:33:21:12 - 00:33:23:22
Unknown
put the phone down, you know, put it down.

00:33:23:22 - 00:33:32:05
Unknown
There's no reason to have a phone, dinner table, put the phone down. Helping the kids, you know, getting ready for bed. Just put it down when we're spending time.

00:33:32:07 - 00:33:39:10
Unknown
And, I mean, that was that was one big time, that that had to kind of get in place,

00:33:39:12 - 00:33:42:16
Unknown
you know, even, like, like we said earlier,

00:33:42:18 - 00:33:42:20
Unknown
you

00:33:42:21 - 00:33:46:18
Unknown
know, when I was at the fire department, like, man, like I had a little bit of a temper, you know?

00:33:46:18 - 00:33:51:09
Unknown
So like, I had to kind of set up some boundaries and exit for that,

00:33:51:12 - 00:34:04:01
Unknown
you know what I mean? Not not to, you know. So I mean, that was something that I worked on a lot because I hated losing my temper. I hate it, I hate things, I would say hate things I would do. My kids don't need to be seen seeing that garbage.

00:34:04:03 - 00:34:06:16
Unknown
And I've been able to fix all of that.

00:34:06:18 - 00:34:07:15
Unknown
That's awesome.

00:34:07:17 - 00:34:21:14
Unknown
Even people, you know, the people I was surrounded by, I needed certain boundaries in place to just. That was one

00:34:21:16 - 00:34:33:04
Unknown
Oh yes. Pin that because I do definitely want to talk about the people aspect. But something I just heard from, you know, you know and especially as we're talking about boundaries,

00:34:33:06 - 00:34:39:01
Unknown
and those who are watching or listening, please grab the book. Boundaries. I'm telling you, it would be life changing for you.

00:34:39:03 - 00:34:42:06
Unknown
Especially if any part of this conversation is resonating with you.

00:34:42:06 - 00:35:04:16
Unknown
Because one of the things you said early on in your conversation, you were seeking validation from people, right? That is a massive boundary that we oftentimes don't even perceive as a boundary. Right? We're allowing other people's opinions, other people's. And don't get me wrong, there is a time to seek other people's guidance and approvals. And I when you call it approval, it's more of guidance from,

00:35:04:18 - 00:35:09:13
Unknown
input in a, in a season that you're dealing with or a situation and so forth.

00:35:09:13 - 00:35:27:10
Unknown
But, you know, there is that boundary that you need to draw. And I'm so thankful that you brought that up, because often times that is probably one of the biggest areas that we, you know, instead of living, you know, you know, bring up this wall, right? We just have that gate wide open,

00:35:27:12 - 00:35:35:19
Unknown
you know, you know, everybody just to spew their ideals, their, you know, input and, you know, influence and how we show up.

00:35:35:19 - 00:35:42:20
Unknown
Right. Let's pivot for a moment because again you talked about circle. You mentioned us a few times. You know I'm of the belief,

00:35:43:01 - 00:35:53:19
Unknown
you know, similar beliefs. You've got to regularly evaluate your environment, environment, meaning not just your physical environment, but your people environment.

00:35:53:21 - 00:35:59:14
Unknown
So you said, you know, you need to put yourself around people who help you grow, right.

00:35:59:16 - 00:36:13:04
Unknown
talk to this person right now? It's by sitting and listening. It's like, you know, they're they're in their their environment. I said a long time ago and, and kind of went viral, if I can say that I don't know. But it was it was a pretty popular post.

00:36:13:10 - 00:36:15:10
Unknown
Or popular thing. I said a conference,

00:36:15:12 - 00:36:19:22
Unknown
you're surrounded by people who don't aspire to grow, you're not in a circle.

00:36:19:22 - 00:36:21:14
Unknown
You're in a cage. Right?

00:36:21:15 - 00:36:22:09
Unknown
So

00:36:22:11 - 00:36:27:20
Unknown
talk to that for a moment. How do you vet your circle now? Right.

00:36:27:22 - 00:36:31:21
Unknown
What's the red flag tell you? It's somebody doesn't belong at your table.

00:36:31:23 - 00:36:47:17
Unknown
You know, and that was the same thing with a lot of this is like it does. It doesn't come easy, you know? I mean, it, it takes a lot of self-reflection, recognizing this is the problem and then taking action to fix that. And then it becomes okay, well,

00:36:47:19 - 00:36:50:02
Unknown
I recognize that. Well, where do I go from here?

00:36:50:02 - 00:36:58:11
Unknown
What do I do with this? You know. And man, for the longest time I was isolated. It was me. I mean, I stripped it down, you know,

00:36:58:16 - 00:36:59:22
Unknown
So that's okay.

00:37:00:00 - 00:37:06:09
Unknown
Yeah, I had nobody in my inner circle. You know, I could say I wasn't, you know, my wife, but it's different, you know what I mean?

00:37:06:09 - 00:37:09:01
Unknown
You know, your wife's always going to be there. It's different. You know, you need to

00:37:09:03 - 00:37:09:14
Unknown
of course.

00:37:09:19 - 00:37:10:19
Unknown
by people that,

00:37:11:01 - 00:37:11:10
Unknown
Yeah.

00:37:11:16 - 00:37:16:08
Unknown
know, again, support you, help you grow, you know, friendships, everything. And,

00:37:16:14 - 00:37:23:04
Unknown
I can speak on my experience. I kind of how although like like what I did and and where I'm going with that.

00:37:23:06 - 00:37:23:22
Unknown
Yeah.

00:37:24:00 - 00:37:28:05
Unknown
honestly, it didn't happen until this past October.

00:37:28:07 - 00:37:33:14
Unknown
I mean, all the way up until this past October, I was still kind of in that isolation. Like

00:37:33:17 - 00:37:34:11
Unknown
Yeah.

00:37:34:13 - 00:37:41:09
Unknown
recognize that. I need a new hour. I recognize these things. But man, what what do I do with this? You

00:37:41:12 - 00:37:41:21
Unknown
Yeah.

00:37:42:02 - 00:37:48:05
Unknown
because I was done slamming beers with all the guys at the fire department and things like that and living that type of lifestyle.

00:37:48:09 - 00:37:53:05
Unknown
So for me, it was getting involved in a, in a men's discipleship group, you know, I had

00:37:53:07 - 00:37:53:21
Unknown
That's awesome.

00:37:54:02 - 00:38:03:09
Unknown
to an old buddy, asked him about that, and he was like, hey, as a matter of fact, he's like, in two weeks, there is a trip up to the

00:38:03:11 - 00:38:06:16
Unknown
in North Carolina of a men's discipleship trip.

00:38:06:18 - 00:38:17:05
Unknown
You know, they do. They do hiking, teach you orienteering, have devotionals like and I love the outdoors, love the mountains. So it was kind of like, that's the both. And

00:38:17:05 - 00:38:18:00
Unknown
Yeah. So.

00:38:18:06 - 00:38:20:01
Unknown
person there. Go ahead.

00:38:20:03 - 00:38:20:19
Unknown
Yeah. So

00:38:20:21 - 00:38:21:06
Unknown
let me

00:38:21:11 - 00:38:29:19
Unknown
I want to talk about that trip because I remember that personally. Right. There is an aspect I want to talk about that because it was something that was highlighted in one of our,

00:38:29:19 - 00:38:33:18
Unknown
mastermind calls that you were on. So I didn't want to talk about that.

00:38:33:20 - 00:38:44:06
Unknown
Right. But let's identify this for real quick because there's probably some Melissa right now watching right now that to your point, you were isolated for a while, right? A

00:38:44:06 - 00:38:55:01
Unknown
lot of people are afraid to purge and take inventory because they're afraid of being alone. So to that point, is it okay for them to be alone?

00:38:55:03 - 00:39:07:19
Unknown
Oh yeah. Absolutely I mean I, I had to, I had a strict myself down and the people I wasn't around starts from square one. You get, you get you trim the fat right. That's what I call you trim the fat. And now

00:39:07:21 - 00:39:08:23
Unknown
A great

00:39:09:01 - 00:39:09:14
Unknown
And then we,

00:39:09:16 - 00:39:12:12
Unknown
I kind of take offense that, by the way. I'm kidding.

00:39:12:14 - 00:39:18:21
Unknown
going to trademark that,

00:39:18:23 - 00:39:25:14
Unknown
so and that that's where I was I mean, honestly, up until October,

00:39:25:16 - 00:39:26:10
Unknown
Nice.

00:39:26:12 - 00:39:30:04
Unknown
trip about 100 guys there, and I only knew one of them,

00:39:30:09 - 00:39:37:08
Unknown
talk about being uncomfortable. All these dudes are buddy, buddy. You know, they're from the same group. They church, same town.

00:39:37:10 - 00:39:38:04
Unknown
Yeah.

00:39:38:06 - 00:39:40:10
Unknown
have, you know, and and here I am.

00:39:40:10 - 00:39:42:02
Unknown
I know nobody except for one

00:39:42:02 - 00:39:42:10
Unknown
Yeah,

00:39:42:16 - 00:39:43:23
Unknown
you know,

00:39:44:01 - 00:40:03:18
Unknown
yeah. And you know what? Leading up to that. Right. But because let's kind of open the book a little bit because I seem to recall there are every everything that was happening, you could have easily given your excuse to, to cop out of that event. Right, because it was your anniversary day or anniversary weekend, like you even were feeling like me.

00:40:03:18 - 00:40:13:02
Unknown
I don't want to go blah blah blah. Like, there are a lot of conversations that were occurring leading up to that. Am I right?

00:40:13:04 - 00:40:19:06
Unknown
And how how did that turn out? How did that event turn out?

00:40:19:08 - 00:40:21:18
Unknown
Yeah.

00:40:21:20 - 00:40:35:07
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. So.

00:40:35:09 - 00:40:52:10
Unknown
Isn't it ironic and how on the situations that we talk or try to talk ourselves out of not going either because it's uncomfortable or it's meeting new people or anything that's growth oriented, we try to talk ourselves out of it when we actually do it. It's like, man, that was,

00:40:52:12 - 00:40:55:08
Unknown
you know, or you know, that was, you know, life changing.

00:40:55:08 - 00:41:15:02
Unknown
That was amazing. That was like, you're so glad that you did it right. So I really wanted to highlight that story because I remember that man. I remember that vividly because I was so proud that you actually were in your wife supportive. She's like, it's all right, but I'm going to go ahead and do that. It wasn't like, fine type of thing.

00:41:15:02 - 00:41:20:23
Unknown
She actually supported you to grow when there was no, like, buyer's remorse afterwards.

00:41:21:01 - 00:41:28:21
Unknown
100%. Because. Yeah. If he gave me if he gave me a little flak about it, I could, I would've been like, yeah, I'm not going, you know what

00:41:28:22 - 00:41:31:05
Unknown
Yeah, yeah.

00:41:31:07 - 00:41:33:16
Unknown
you know, having her support

00:41:33:16 - 00:41:34:10
Unknown
Love it.

00:41:34:12 - 00:41:38:23
Unknown
definitely helped me. Just like, okay, let's just let us go. You know,

00:41:39:03 - 00:41:41:03
Unknown
Yeah. Love it,

00:41:41:05 - 00:41:59:06
Unknown
love it. Well, as we know, you're right. You know, those that are listening are watching. They probably don't understand it, but you know, real estate can be extremely chaotic, right? Because you're having to adjust your schedule to other people or a lot of phone calls, a lot of stuff going on so that life can be chaotic.

00:41:59:06 - 00:42:03:06
Unknown
So walk us through your Monday morning, if you will, which ironically, is

00:42:03:11 - 00:42:12:06
Unknown
today, as we're ordered right now into, you know, and there was nothing routine about this, right, because we have so many technical difficulties. And

00:42:12:08 - 00:42:17:13
Unknown
yeah, interestingly, you know, we could have easily if just kick this off into another day or you know,

00:42:17:13 - 00:42:20:18
Unknown
punted it to another day or whatever, you know, we, we pushed through.

00:42:20:18 - 00:42:27:23
Unknown
So we defined that grit. Right. But through your typical morning, your Monday morning,

00:42:28:01 - 00:42:33:17
Unknown
what is one metric a routine you check to make sure you own the day, you own the week,

00:42:33:21 - 00:42:36:03
Unknown
rather than it only you.

00:42:36:03 - 00:42:43:21
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, I tried to over the past 12 months, it's been starting the day off with some type of physical activity. You know

00:42:44:02 - 00:42:44:05
Unknown
what?

00:42:44:07 - 00:42:51:10
Unknown
get on the treadmill, get outside. The weather's nice, work out, you know, in the garage. Something with a little of that physical activity for for me and

00:42:51:13 - 00:42:52:14
Unknown
And.

00:42:52:16 - 00:42:57:00
Unknown
That just helped. Kind of set the day. Sets the tone for the day.

00:42:57:02 - 00:42:59:03
Unknown
We agree.

00:42:59:05 - 00:43:00:13
Unknown
staying off social media

00:43:00:15 - 00:43:05:10
Unknown
like, man, I was one of those people that like, and I still have to work on it.

00:43:05:12 - 00:43:12:21
Unknown
The last thing I do when I go to bed and it's the first thing I do. Like what what am I thumbing through Facebook for?

00:43:12:23 - 00:43:14:04
Unknown
Yeah.

00:43:14:06 - 00:43:18:01
Unknown
reality check. Go to your screen time on the iPhone users and see,

00:43:18:03 - 00:43:19:01
Unknown
Right.

00:43:19:03 - 00:43:20:07
Unknown
see your usage

00:43:20:07 - 00:43:26:15
Unknown
and it's, it's eye opening. And so I mean, for me too, it's being very intentional not to do that,

00:43:26:19 - 00:43:28:16
Unknown
not to start my day off on social media.

00:43:28:20 - 00:43:29:14
Unknown
There's nothing there.

00:43:29:16 - 00:43:30:06
Unknown
Yeah.

00:43:30:08 - 00:43:32:04
Unknown
I need to get my day started.

00:43:32:06 - 00:43:32:11
Unknown
You

00:43:32:16 - 00:43:33:15
Unknown
Yeah

00:43:33:17 - 00:43:34:15
Unknown
so starting off with, you know,

00:43:34:18 - 00:43:35:21
Unknown
I think.

00:43:35:23 - 00:43:44:18
Unknown
and then kind of leading through through my workday, you know, different, different follow up tasks that I, you know, leads and stuff like that, that I'm working on,

00:43:44:20 - 00:43:45:18
Unknown
into town,

00:43:46:00 - 00:43:47:04
Unknown
all that good stuff.

00:43:47:06 - 00:43:54:16
Unknown
Love it man. Love it I, I'm of the same belief man. There was a phrase I'm reminded of. You've got to exhaust the body that came to mind. Right.

00:43:54:16 - 00:44:06:22
Unknown
And you know when you do that first thing in the morning, you're, you're you're controlling your day. You're setting up your day for success by exhaust in your mind, you're you're you're exhausting your body, not your mind, but you're exhausting your body.

00:44:07:00 - 00:44:09:14
Unknown
It is really positioned you for the rest of the day.

00:44:09:19 - 00:44:12:10
Unknown
let's let's get into more of the tactics.

00:44:12:12 - 00:44:18:23
Unknown
we start to wrap this up, there's kind of like a signature clothes that I loved it. And every episode with,

00:44:19:01 - 00:44:24:00
Unknown
of things that, you know, to share with an audience and things, you kind of open the book a little bit.

00:44:24:02 - 00:44:25:07
Unknown
On a few things. Right? So,

00:44:25:12 - 00:44:29:19
Unknown
I'm of the belief that grit looks different in every season of life, right?

00:44:29:19 - 00:44:30:15
Unknown
Whether you're

00:44:30:15 - 00:44:36:01
Unknown
navigating early, you know, parenthood or late parenthood or you're coming from being

00:44:36:03 - 00:44:43:02
Unknown
to five or, you know, like you were in your, in your earlier part of your life to now become a, you know, a new entrepreneur or a new founder.

00:44:43:02 - 00:44:43:12
Unknown
Right?

00:44:43:12 - 00:44:49:04
Unknown
In this specific season, you're in, what does grit look like for you right now?

00:44:49:06 - 00:44:53:05
Unknown
Yeah. I mean I've, I know and one word I would say commitment.

00:44:53:05 - 00:44:58:20
Unknown
You know, like you're committed to the work that you have to do because you have no boss, you have

00:44:59:01 - 00:44:59:11
Unknown
Yeah.

00:44:59:13 - 00:45:05:23
Unknown
hey here's what needs to get done today. Well I got a little whiteboard on my desk next to me with written out. Hey, here's

00:45:06:01 - 00:45:10:01
Unknown
do throughout the week, you know, so it's staying.

00:45:10:01 - 00:45:13:05
Unknown
Staying committed and treating yourself for the work that needs

00:45:13:05 - 00:45:13:22
Unknown
Okay.

00:45:14:00 - 00:45:16:07
Unknown
And that

00:45:16:09 - 00:45:23:16
Unknown
Yeah.

00:45:23:18 - 00:45:26:18
Unknown
Agree?

00:45:26:20 - 00:45:35:22
Unknown
Yeah. I love that you you you pivoted that because you know how I am about, you know, negative. I am statements, but,

00:45:36:00 - 00:45:41:11
Unknown
you know, immediately or like, yeah, I'm working every day to get better at it. Right? Because man, life,

00:45:41:13 - 00:45:45:10
Unknown
you know, success is a journey. Life is a journey. It's not a destination,

00:45:45:12 - 00:45:50:11
Unknown
you know? I mean, you know, as long as we can focus on 1%, man, it's all we gotta do.

00:45:50:13 - 00:45:51:00
Unknown
So,

00:45:51:04 - 00:45:52:00
Unknown
especially

00:45:52:02 - 00:46:05:23
Unknown
as high, you know, high achievers and founders and so forth that were always growth focus. There's always this talk about adding new habits, plans, strategies, processes and so forth. But let's look on the other side of the spectrum.

00:46:06:05 - 00:46:13:22
Unknown
Growth also requires subtraction right. Subtraction of maybe habits beliefs or friction points.

00:46:14:00 - 00:46:15:11
Unknown
things you had to unlearn.

00:46:15:12 - 00:46:22:12
Unknown
what is one thing that you're actively working on to unlearn or to change about something you can, you know, take away?

00:46:22:14 - 00:46:30:03
Unknown
Yeah, I would say early, early on the the unlearning was, was again kind of back to like, the inner circle. Like I had a,

00:46:30:06 - 00:46:34:07
Unknown
I had to strip it down, you know, and,

00:46:34:07 - 00:46:43:15
Unknown
work on that because that was, that was a big thing for me, man. I mean I was I was influenced heavily by my inner circle, as, as a lot of people can be.

00:46:43:15 - 00:46:44:12
Unknown
And so it

00:46:44:12 - 00:46:45:04
Unknown
Yeah.

00:46:45:05 - 00:46:45:14
Unknown
it was

00:46:45:14 - 00:46:46:03
Unknown
Imagine.

00:46:46:05 - 00:46:51:23
Unknown
it was a that's kind of the first thing that comes to top of mind, with your, with your question is, is that,

00:46:52:00 - 00:46:52:10
Unknown
Awesome.

00:46:52:14 - 00:47:06:20
Unknown
it. When the lights are out and you're in the trenches, you're in a thick of it, right? What is that one quote or directive that you find yourself repeating to yourself to keep moving forward?

00:47:07:01 - 00:47:15:17
Unknown
I got it written on a post-it note right here, which was set by somebody that, you know, and I can tell you after the call, whatever you want. But is the

00:47:15:22 - 00:47:20:20
Unknown
defining point of success is removing the gap between decision and action.

00:47:20:22 - 00:47:21:06
Unknown
And

00:47:21:10 - 00:47:23:16
Unknown
Oh, I love that you said that.

00:47:23:18 - 00:47:26:02
Unknown
Well, I can say I'm sure he won't care.

00:47:26:04 - 00:47:27:21
Unknown
Matt Hasler.

00:47:27:23 - 00:47:31:23
Unknown
Okay, awesome. Yeah. Let's give him.

00:47:32:01 - 00:47:39:11
Unknown
that off the cuff, to me a few months ago, and I wrote it down. It's still there on the sticky note. So that is

00:47:39:14 - 00:47:40:09
Unknown
Awesome.

00:47:40:11 - 00:47:43:01
Unknown
back to myself when

00:47:43:03 - 00:47:48:13
Unknown
I've got this to do that, to do all these things, to do, to just remind yourself, you got to do it, you got it.

00:47:48:13 - 00:47:50:05
Unknown
You got to take that action.

00:47:50:07 - 00:47:50:21
Unknown
So.

00:47:51:01 - 00:47:57:10
Unknown
Yeah, he's he's a phenomenal dude, I love that. I love that you shared that quote because that's a powerful quote, man I hope everybody caught that.

00:47:57:13 - 00:48:00:23
Unknown
I'll you put that in the show notes.

00:48:01:01 - 00:48:13:15
Unknown
So this next question, as we wrap up, it is a two part question in an effort to pass iron right to to keep the iron movement going.

00:48:13:15 - 00:48:46:13
Unknown
You know, so the two parts I always ask my guests, hey, if you're in my seat, what would you love to ask the next guest? Right. So, as you can imagine, and this is completely anonymous, right? In, in the sense that, you know, the, the person asking, they have no idea who's coming up. Right? And ironically, every time I ask this when and you know, I'm an us to the to the next guest, it's always an amazing fit for the guest.

00:48:46:15 - 00:48:46:23
Unknown
Right.

00:48:47:05 - 00:48:53:20
Unknown
So my previous guest, as you're thinking of a question to ask my next guest, I'm going to ask you that for you.

00:48:53:22 - 00:49:07:05
Unknown
If you had to start over today in this current market, with this current economy, would you still lead the fire department to do exactly what you're doing now? Or would you have done something completely different?

00:49:07:06 - 00:49:14:16
Unknown
Yes, I would add it. And I think the reason why I would say yes is, again, not even

00:49:14:18 - 00:49:18:11
Unknown
income wise and financial wise, but because none of this is about money.

00:49:18:13 - 00:49:27:16
Unknown
So many people chase the dollar. And it's not about that man at all whatsoever. Chase the life that you want for yourself, for you and your family.

00:49:27:18 - 00:49:31:05
Unknown
And that that is why with my answer would be yes, I would do it.

00:49:31:05 - 00:49:36:04
Unknown
I would do it all over again. You know, given that

00:49:36:06 - 00:49:39:17
Unknown
So.

00:49:39:19 - 00:49:50:15
Unknown
Gotcha. Love it. So just clarify because it was it was a yes to either one. But I want to make sure you still lead the fire department to do exactly what you're doing right now.

00:49:50:18 - 00:50:03:03
Unknown
Right. You love it. That's awesome. So now it is your turn. You know, you've had a few intersects to think about it. You're you're in my seat for the next person.

00:50:03:03 - 00:50:07:22
Unknown
I can't give out who it is, but you're in seat asked this next question.

00:50:07:22 - 00:50:17:16
Unknown
What is the question? You will love to ask this next guest.

00:50:17:18 - 00:50:33:15
Unknown
And I said I had this, that I was, I was I just relocated my, my home office and I was going through some old paperwork, and it has some stuff written down and pertaining to discipline is, is I feel like sometimes I am in my own way.

00:50:33:15 - 00:50:36:12
Unknown
And how

00:50:36:14 - 00:50:59:19
Unknown
So I guess the question there would be, about discipline. You know how how how to do that, how to get out of your own way to continue to grow and compound on your your daily actions to get to your goals? I hope that makes sense. And not me just rambling.

00:50:59:21 - 00:51:04:16
Unknown
All right. So this to clarify because I, I want to be super specific. How do you get out of your own way.

00:51:04:18 - 00:51:09:04
Unknown
Yeah. And pertaining to discipline, how do you get out of your own way to just,

00:51:09:10 - 00:51:14:14
Unknown
continue to to do the daily path that, that you need to do?

00:51:14:16 - 00:51:17:10
Unknown
That sometimes you put off?

00:51:17:12 - 00:51:23:10
Unknown
Oh, procrastination is a pitch, isn't it?

00:51:23:12 - 00:51:26:20
Unknown
Gotcha. In other words, how do you prevent procrastination?

00:51:27:00 - 00:51:27:23
Unknown
There we go.

00:51:28:01 - 00:51:35:09
Unknown
I'm not asking it that way that your question was very different, but same result, because that's not my question. So.

00:51:35:12 - 00:51:48:01
Unknown
Awesome. Awesome. Well, as you wrap up, is there anything you know on your heart that you as we're we've been talking like you forgot to say or anything of that nature you just want to throw out?

00:51:48:01 - 00:51:49:10
Unknown
Or as we wrap up.

00:51:49:10 - 00:51:54:19
Unknown
Yeah. You know, I think there's nothing quick to add in as, like, we've talked about me and like my journey with this.

00:51:54:19 - 00:51:58:00
Unknown
you know, my, my wife is going through the same thing right now.

00:51:58:02 - 00:51:58:04
Unknown
You

00:51:58:04 - 00:52:03:06
Unknown
know, she, she and I think you may know, like, she was a teacher about a year ago.

00:52:03:08 - 00:52:03:22
Unknown
Yeah.

00:52:04:00 - 00:52:06:18
Unknown
her back injured at work.

00:52:06:19 - 00:52:15:07
Unknown
And then a few months in, she realized, hey, I really like this lifestyle. Being home, being here with the kids. And, you know, she's she's

00:52:15:09 - 00:52:33:07
Unknown
thing where we we settled. She wasn't able to return to work, sell her worker's comp case. She is home. But same thing. We left her salary, her benefits, her future pension, left all that stuff on the table to have the better life that you want for yourself.

00:52:33:07 - 00:52:35:05
Unknown
And that's why I say, like so

00:52:35:05 - 00:52:35:17
Unknown
That's awesome.

00:52:35:17 - 00:52:43:08
Unknown
chase the dollar, so many people are just so money focused. And it's not about that, man. It's not about that at all. Create the life you want for yourself and the freedom you

00:52:43:11 - 00:52:44:03
Unknown
Yeah.

00:52:44:05 - 00:52:45:13
Unknown
and set your boundaries.

00:52:45:15 - 00:52:49:15
Unknown
Agree man I agree, I love it dude. Thanks for sharing all that. Thanks for sharing your heart.

00:52:49:17 - 00:52:55:13
Unknown
Brandon, my dude, I really appreciate you, joining me and sharing the last hour with us.

00:52:55:15 - 00:53:07:23
Unknown
And thank you for not just sharing the real estate success highlight reel, the version of the story. Right. Because, you know, especially on social media, bro, that's, you know, a lot of what we see is only the highlight reel.

00:53:07:23 - 00:53:24:09
Unknown
So I really appreciate you coming in and allowing us a sneak peek into the darkness, the burnout. And quite frankly, you know, the fear of of leaving the pension security, the golden handcuffs in the reality of what it costs,

00:53:24:11 - 00:53:26:19
Unknown
what it actually cost to have it right.

00:53:26:21 - 00:53:33:16
Unknown
So you need just highlight reel. You shared what is actually what helps people that are listening and or watching right now.

00:53:33:18 - 00:53:42:18
Unknown
So, you know, for the person who is listening for right now who resonates with the struggle, maybe if they're in a quote unquote safe job,

00:53:42:20 - 00:53:43:18
Unknown
that they hate,

00:53:44:00 - 00:53:50:18
Unknown
or they're looking for a realtor, who actually understands grit.

00:53:50:20 - 00:54:03:18
Unknown
Where can they find out more information about you? Where is the best place for them to connect with the guy I'm sitting here with today?

00:54:03:20 - 00:54:08:16
Unknown
Awesome. Well, we'll definitely have your socials. And if of course, if you have any website

00:54:08:18 - 00:54:12:22
Unknown
or website you want to share, I'll definitely include that in the show notes. So,

00:54:12:22 - 00:54:18:13
Unknown
awesome. Well, again, Brandon, thank you so much for stepping into the arena. Today was an absolute honor to have you, my dude.